A couple of quick questions - are the quartz singing bowls strictly necessary for all this? Might there be some other viable alternative?
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Resurrection Protocols - A Shared Resonance Field with DMT + Eye Gazing + Quartz
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Definitely not strictly necessary. It works without acoustics, they just seem to help a lot. Metal singing bowls surely help to and other instruments and music. We've done it without acoustics at sites and at home and it works. There's also all kinds of recordings online that probably help a lot to. Even just a sine wave on a pair of speakers lifts the state quite a bit. I prefer to put stuff onto a CD for the best quality.
That said quartz singing bowls for whatever reason are quite powerful especially the larger ones. With a few bowls going we have noticed fields emerging from a large amethyst when sober in long meditation sessions.
It is also fascinating to bowl-gaze. During sessions, a handful of friends have noticed glowing geometry/standing waves emanating off the sides of the bowl when it's ringing (some noticed it independently before hearing about it). At first it looked like lazer etched geometry/lines that were glowing green, then grew. It seems a lot easier to notice during the day (most of this stuff appears to work better in daylight for some reason).
I have no idea if this is an acoustic wave or something else that we are seeing but having shared perception always seems like a good sign, and focusing on it feels like it helps build coherence to some degree. My friend and I always seem to notice the same color fields emerging from it. The stability is quite astounding to say the least and very reproducible.
Now that I'm on the 'puter I wanted to reply to more of this that I hadn't gotten around to
This seems to be a very useful and logical exercise and is similar to what some of us have done (testing each element individually and various combinations at different locations)
Back in the day, before hearing about this stuff, I used to smoked changa and stare at a mandala tapestry. I found this useful but not drastically more useful than staring anywhere else. For some reason staring did seem to focus the state and proved helpful though. Eventually I settled on staring at trees outside my window. Thousands of leaves, especially in the wind, provides a complex scene that is in many ways too difficult for the ego/left hemisphere to process. I think this helps shift the state a bit, similar to the dzogchen tradition of sky-gazing. It would seem as if I could see all of the leaves at once, if I relaxed.
So once I got to crystal/eye gazing I had already done quite a bit of staring at other objects on low doses of DMT, and was in a good position to compare. I thought crystals were just hippy BS but the data on them being high frequency resonators is surprisingly comprehensive. Once I tried it with a decent chunk of amethyst it got shocking quickly. The crystal would look incredibly bizarre at first, while the rest of my room would look almost completely normal (an interesting effect is that as coherence builds, some of the weird effects of the medicines dissipate and vision gets extra clear).
There is a distinct visual change to the crystal that is difficult to describe but incredibly consistent. After more practice increasingly jaw dropping fields were beginning to emerge on LSD without even having to crystal gaze or smoke DMT first. Eventually it is like CGI level glowing fields bursting out all over the room but my wife has more experience past the transition at home than myself. I'm still regaining my sea legs after some unrelated traumatic life events. I just remembered that I did hold a large piece of selenite last session and didn't notice anything particularly interesting coming from it compared to the quartz.
If the effect was due to merely conceptual significance attached to a crystal or sacred site, I wouldn't expect this approach to be capable of reliably amplifying the effects of low dose LSD or DMT by several orders of magnitude, in such a stable way. While tests on crystal-gazing on psychedelics haven't been done, the brain's microtubules do engage in a similar range of phononic oscillations and it is a very ancient practice - so it seems worthy of investigation. There is also a documented neural synchronization effect that occurrs between brains in response to music, psychedelics, and eye gazing in isolation, so it's not that surprising there is something useful when combining those approaches, especially given that they are all ancient techniques.
Regardless of the accuracy of the current model, whenever I see people begin to eye gaze or crystal and it begins to work, even the initial results are often so strange and powerful relative to normal psychedelic states that the idea of it being entirely self suggestion usually goes out the window, even among those of us who remain skeptical about the reasons why that ultimately may be. With practice these states become shockingly stable, and much more profound than even a DMT "breakthrough", but who knows?
It would be useful if more skeptical people could report back if they have any experience with these techniques, especially those with a scientific background and significant experience with LSD (looking at you @Varallo
). There does seem to be some obvious avenues for easily testing this in a lab setting but finding someone open to the idea would probably be a challenge at this stage.
This seems to be a very useful and logical exercise and is similar to what some of us have done (testing each element individually and various combinations at different locations)
Back in the day, before hearing about this stuff, I used to smoked changa and stare at a mandala tapestry. I found this useful but not drastically more useful than staring anywhere else. For some reason staring did seem to focus the state and proved helpful though. Eventually I settled on staring at trees outside my window. Thousands of leaves, especially in the wind, provides a complex scene that is in many ways too difficult for the ego/left hemisphere to process. I think this helps shift the state a bit, similar to the dzogchen tradition of sky-gazing. It would seem as if I could see all of the leaves at once, if I relaxed.
So once I got to crystal/eye gazing I had already done quite a bit of staring at other objects on low doses of DMT, and was in a good position to compare. I thought crystals were just hippy BS but the data on them being high frequency resonators is surprisingly comprehensive. Once I tried it with a decent chunk of amethyst it got shocking quickly. The crystal would look incredibly bizarre at first, while the rest of my room would look almost completely normal (an interesting effect is that as coherence builds, some of the weird effects of the medicines dissipate and vision gets extra clear).
There is a distinct visual change to the crystal that is difficult to describe but incredibly consistent. After more practice increasingly jaw dropping fields were beginning to emerge on LSD without even having to crystal gaze or smoke DMT first. Eventually it is like CGI level glowing fields bursting out all over the room but my wife has more experience past the transition at home than myself. I'm still regaining my sea legs after some unrelated traumatic life events. I just remembered that I did hold a large piece of selenite last session and didn't notice anything particularly interesting coming from it compared to the quartz.
If the effect was due to merely conceptual significance attached to a crystal or sacred site, I wouldn't expect this approach to be capable of reliably amplifying the effects of low dose LSD or DMT by several orders of magnitude, in such a stable way. While tests on crystal-gazing on psychedelics haven't been done, the brain's microtubules do engage in a similar range of phononic oscillations and it is a very ancient practice - so it seems worthy of investigation. There is also a documented neural synchronization effect that occurrs between brains in response to music, psychedelics, and eye gazing in isolation, so it's not that surprising there is something useful when combining those approaches, especially given that they are all ancient techniques.
Regardless of the accuracy of the current model, whenever I see people begin to eye gaze or crystal and it begins to work, even the initial results are often so strange and powerful relative to normal psychedelic states that the idea of it being entirely self suggestion usually goes out the window, even among those of us who remain skeptical about the reasons why that ultimately may be. With practice these states become shockingly stable, and much more profound than even a DMT "breakthrough", but who knows?
It would be useful if more skeptical people could report back if they have any experience with these techniques, especially those with a scientific background and significant experience with LSD (looking at you @Varallo
). There does seem to be some obvious avenues for easily testing this in a lab setting but finding someone open to the idea would probably be a challenge at this stage.
I like the way you’re approaching this, the hands-on, iterative exploration is honestly pretty close to a scientific mindset already.Now that I'm on the 'puter I wanted to reply to more of this that I hadn't gotten around to
This seems to be a very useful and logical exercise and is similar to what some of us have done (testing each element individually and various combinations at different locations)
Back in the day, before hearing about this stuff, I used to smoked changa and stare at a mandala tapestry. I found this useful but not drastically more useful than staring anywhere else. For some reason staring did seem to focus the state and proved helpful though. Eventually I settled on staring at trees outside my window. Thousands of leaves, especially in the wind, provides a complex scene that is in many ways too difficult for the ego/left hemisphere to process. I think this helps shift the state a bit, similar to the dzogchen tradition of sky-gazing. It would seem as if I could see all of the leaves at once, if I relaxed.
So once I got to crystal/eye gazing I had already done quite a bit of staring at other objects on low doses of DMT and was in a good position to compare. I thought crystals were just hippy BS but the data on them being high frequency resonators is surprisingly comprehensive. Once I tried it with a decent chunk of amethyst it got shocking quickly. The crystal would look incredibly bizarre at first, while the rest of my room would look almost completely normal (an interesting effect is that as coherence builds, some of the weird effects of the medicines dissipate and vision gets extra clear).
There is a distinct visual change to the crystal that is difficult to describe but incredibly consistent. After more practice increasingly jaw dropping fields were beginning to emerge on LSD without even having to crystal gaze or smoke DMT first. Eventually it is like CGI level toroidal fields bursting out all over the room but my wife has more experience past the transition at home than myself. I'm still regaining my sea legs after some traumatic life events. I just remembered that I did hold a large piece of selenite last session and didn't notice anything particularly interesting coming from it compared to the quartz.
If the effect was due to merely perceived significance attached to a crystal or sacred site, I would expect the effects to subside - at least to some degree - once the crystal/eye gazing ends or after leaving the site. With practice these states become shockingly stable, but who knows?
It would be useful if more skeptical people could report back after trying these techniques, especially those with a scientific background and significant experience with LSD (looking at you @Varallo
At the same time to answer your question I find myself a bit split on the question of whether this is something you’d even want to understand scientifically. With experiences that are this subjective and immersive, there’s always a bit of a trade-off. The more you try to reduce it to mechanisms and variables, the more you risk taking some of the magic out of it. So I guess the question becomes, how much do you actually want to explain here, and what are you okay with potentially losing in the process?
If you were to approach this from a more scientific angle, it would get complicated pretty quickly. You’d need fairly elaborate study designs, controlling for set and setting, using some form of blinding, working with larger sample sizes, and ideally making sure participants don’t fully know what’s being tested. That last part is especially tricky here, because expectation and meaning seem to be such a big part of what’s happening. And then mechanistic it’s even more difficult. Also the act of studying it might already change the thing itself.
For what it’s worth, I do recognize parts of what you’re describing. I’ve had similar experiences focusing on plants. For a long time I had a large houseplant that, on DMT or LSD, that would consistently somehow show the the flow of its life force in the veins. It was very stable across sessions and definitely meaningful.
So my inclination would be to treat this primarily as something to explore and work with, rather than something that necessarily needs to be fully explained. If people want to experiment with it and compare notes, that’s great, and I’d be curious to hear what others find as well.
Also, I actually found a really nice clear quartz crystal in the Alps about two years ago. Next time, if I remember, I’ll give this a try myself and see whether the ritual (protocol) leads to a similar experience for me. And if I do, I’ll definitely report back.
Varallo
Testing for piezoelectric activity in a quartz singing bowl would be a relatively simple affair. Imo, this would constitute a plausible mechanism for some of the phononic resonance effects. Would you happen to know the resonance tones of any of your bowls?
Yeah, trees are pretty good for that, ime! The first time I ever caught myself in a state of mental stillness was through casually staring at the sihouettes of some Scots pine trees one evening.
You probably already know that selenite is 'just' a particular crystalline form of calcium carbonate. I remember being rather disappointed on finding out that it didn't contain any selenium, although this did kind of made up for the heartbreak of already having left my sample behind in a Dorset pub. But I digress.
I'll make a reiteration of my intent to contribute some kind of practical attempt at replication of various of the aspects involved in this technique sometime during the coming months.
I think I'll have to try and share the core/origins of the theory in order to explain the motivation behind testing this in an academic setting, as the resurrection stuff is mostly just an experiential proof of concept of the larger idea (from what I understand, but again this is not my theory). I'll see if I can manage a short summary when I get back from vacation, and maybe finish another trip report that better describes what seems to be happening during these states as this report was really just a partial glimpse. Tbh I was hesitant to share too much too quickly as I was partly worried people would just think all of this is crazy, which is of course fine (and it definitely is!)
I think without needing to pursue mechanistic explanations, some simple reproduction of existing studies such as those measuring brain activity while eye gazing would be all that was needed to show an effect. So basically repeat the eye gazing study but with LSD, and then again with a large geocrystalline resonator in the room etc.
I'm using two 14" bowls, both with 440hz tuning. One is a B note and measures at 246hz while the other is D# and measures at 313hz. They are quite something when played together on psychedelics.
It's hard to say what these fields are since there really is no isolated phononic or acoustic or electrical field, and they're always entangled with all the other fields around us all the time (and the supposed zero point vacuum field etc). Who knows. It could just be "Surface Acoustic Waves" I guess. I think there is ideas surrounding some sort of quantum coherence halo that emerges, which is probably far fetched and admittedly skeptical as hell but it would explain a lot.
"A quantum coherence halo refers to a region of sustained quantum coherence that forms around a controlled spin system, particularly in studies of electron spins embedded in diamond. This concept emerged from recent research (February 2026) where scientists demonstrated long-lasting quantum coherence in disordered spin ensembles."
Yeah I'm now remembering that its structure is rather unremarkable. I have a small piece of lapis lazuli I've been meaning to test out, because from what data I could find it resonates...but of course every time the LSD kicks in most of my plans go out the window
Well, this thread sure has taken off.
I haven't read everything, but for everyone who is skeptical, the guy who wrote a preliminary treatise on skepticism wants to encourage you to try it. It works... hold on to your butts.
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I haven't read everything, but for everyone who is skeptical, the guy who wrote a preliminary treatise on skepticism wants to encourage you to try it. It works... hold on to your butts.
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Funny little anecdote/LSD eye gazing experience at 2:50:15 between Lennon and McCartney
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Looking forward to actually testing this out in the not too distant future. Eagerly watching this space... it'll be a matter of hitting people up to get hold of some singing bowls, hmm...
October 2026 update:
Now that there is more information available on this, I wanted to link it all here and make the thread public. I was hesitant to begin sharing these experiences without more context, which is why I did not initially post this on the public forum till now.
Some of you may be familiar with his Tony Wright’s older book Left In The Dark, or the version that Inner Traditions later renamed Return to the Brain of Eden (some reviews to prove I'm not making all this up!):
I think it was actually minxx who originally turned many of us onto this book all those years ago.
The more recent work below is essentially a vastly updated and expanded version with highly testable elements and a number of falsifiable predictions.
Wright has begun detailing what could be called a modern translation of the ancient traditions in the form of videos, quite dense but impressive preprint papers, and pages of his website - which also details a re-imagined version of this ancient protocol that is extremely effective, regardless of whether the theory behind it holds water. I gave an out of context explanation and detailed overview of my experience with it earlier in this thread, in my reply to Nydex.
This appears to be a "soft launch" and everything is still in draft form, but this current material still provides the necessary details on the protocol and the reasoning behind it. Uploading the preprints to AI is particularly effective at generating short, understandable summaries at various levels of depth.
First video from the audio page:
Now that there is more information available on this, I wanted to link it all here and make the thread public. I was hesitant to begin sharing these experiences without more context, which is why I did not initially post this on the public forum till now.
Some of you may be familiar with his Tony Wright’s older book Left In The Dark, or the version that Inner Traditions later renamed Return to the Brain of Eden (some reviews to prove I'm not making all this up!):
I think it was actually minxx who originally turned many of us onto this book all those years ago.
The more recent work below is essentially a vastly updated and expanded version with highly testable elements and a number of falsifiable predictions.
Wright has begun detailing what could be called a modern translation of the ancient traditions in the form of videos, quite dense but impressive preprint papers, and pages of his website - which also details a re-imagined version of this ancient protocol that is extremely effective, regardless of whether the theory behind it holds water. I gave an out of context explanation and detailed overview of my experience with it earlier in this thread, in my reply to Nydex.
This appears to be a "soft launch" and everything is still in draft form, but this current material still provides the necessary details on the protocol and the reasoning behind it. Uploading the preprints to AI is particularly effective at generating short, understandable summaries at various levels of depth.
First video from the audio page:
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This is very interesting 
The places with big boulders or rocks beneath the trees are the best outdoor spots for tripping imo. Very specific geomantic energy there.
The places with big boulders or rocks beneath the trees are the best outdoor spots for tripping imo. Very specific geomantic energy there.
Thats the next book to read after I've finished the Alexander Beiner book.
Has the book been revised significantly since left in the dark? I was rereading left in the dark last year but maybe I’m missing out on new stuff?
Yeah I wanted to ask this too, since I read Left In The Dark like a few months ago.
Agreed! What have your experiences been like there?This is very interesting
The places with big boulders or rocks beneath the trees are the best outdoor spots for tripping imo. Very specific geomantic energy there.
It's a slightly updated version but essentially the same book. From what I've read, Inner Traditions acquired the rights to Left In The Dark in 2014-ish and renamed it to make it their own. I saw that image on the link to his old site that explains the books history.
It still provides a solid foundation, especially on the left/right brain data and evolutionary symbiosis, but it was mostly written in the early 2000's. So for now the updated theory (and all the resurrection/protocol stuff) is only available on the website/preprints/videos linked in my post above:
Introduction | Raising The Dead
raisingthedead.info
My most important psychedelic experiences were at such places.
The best example is my formative LSD experience, during which I've felt the characteristic lysergamide Oneness or Nonduality for the first time. It had a form of strong white light, which existed independently and unconditionally.
Then it transformed into colourful bubbles of energy, strongly pregnant with possibilities, but still without separation into duality. At that phase, I started again to be and looked around but there were just some kind of energetic fields.
It was dificult to recognize what is around me, but then one chunk of colourful energy materialized into flying bumblebee which flied close to my head, another vertically moving chunks evaded identification for short period of time (I remember that I said to confused myself that this is strange and it definitely must mean something) but then I was able to understand that these are raindrops. It really started to rain, but fortunately, it was very mild and short rain as I was not able to move or cover myself or do anything practical to protect my body.
But it still provided some grounding into physical reality and I finally found out that I am laying on the ground inside some ant colony and the ants are biting me. Somehow I climbed on nearby rock boulder, but it was more like partially materialized energy, visible waves moved on the surface of the rock originating from the spots where I was touching it. It really resembled water. I played with these waves with lot of awe and childlike joy.
After that, my trip continued in more normal way, eventhough I remember that to got to my backpack which was some 50m away I had to endure very eventful and surprising journey. At least I know that to reach some predefined spot by walking needs very complex mental and physical processes
which I got the chance to observe in very detail, deconstructed into basic components.All this was surprisingly strong effect for a dose I did that day.
Decades later, this exact place has been officially declared Nature Protected Area in a very unusual way. I see it as a sign.
I visit the place regularly to commemorate my experience.
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