Reusing Naphtha resulting in more jungle spice

[aethereon]

I have been doing the @q21q21 Fluffy white funfest Tek and been re-using the same Naphtha for about 16 or so washes (I topped it up here and there) but over time I have been finding less and less straight crystal after freeze precip and more and more 'mystery goo' in the dish... Also the naphtha has turned a tinge more red; I think over time it starts to carry much of the oils/tannins or whatever in the bark and this is turning up in the extraction.

The only thing that came to mind is that it tastes as what I could only describe as "detergentey" aka kind of tastes like laundry detergent, although no ill effects have been experienced. Aside from the goo to be slightly more 'nasty' or 'harsh' when being vaped and seemingly a bit harder to vape. Also the goo isn't very 'user friendly' aka handling, measuring, etc. seems to be much more difficult than just with a powder like form.

Also the experience indeed seemed to be a bit more novel in certain ways. Definitely two times I experienced a 'new' sort of visuals. One time it was kind of "basic computer generated scenery or visualizations" and another time it's hard for me to remember the visions but it was a quite of interesting sort of collage of different utterly ridiculous scenes and both times had me wondering what is the purpose of this madness but i contended with myself with just being blessed with witnessing what i was envisioning and recieving whatever it is i needed from seeing that. But also I have experienced generally always sort of "faint" visuals more often than not my CEVs are like very unsaturated, very low in luminosity type stuff and I sort of yearn for some sort of 'hyperreal' visuals where the color saturation is 'maxed out' and possibly even some sort of 5D "impossible" geometry because although what I've seen has always been incredible when having the open or closed eye visuals I always wondered why what I was seeing was so faint. As well the visions being rooted in a strictly 2D or 3D representation. Also I do tend to put a 'mood light' in my setting because I do agree that complete blackness produces more 'muted' to my already seemingly muted visuals in case if anyone was wondering if it could be that. Furthermore my actual breakthroughs number very very small and brief and even then I was left wanting some of the aforementioned hyperreal visuals and/or 'entity' contact. But I feel like I'm always surprised by the ability of dmt paired with the consciousness to produce a new type of 'novelty' like sort of Terrence McKenna spoke about how the universe is a novelty producing machine.

Nothing really groundbreaking I'm here but I'm wondering if anyone has experienced the same with reusing naphtha, and is it possible to 'wash' the naphtha or is it just better to get some new solvent?

Also I kind of miss the yellow dmt I had for a while, but never extracted myself. What teks can yield that?

 

[TheGreenPhantom]

...sounds like it's time to evaporate your naphtha...

 

[blig-blug]

About jungle spice: if you look it up here, you'll find that it was analyzed and found to be almost pure DMT. It's not unlikely that the difference in effects that many report are due to different expectations.

 

[aethereon]

...sounds like it's time to evaporate your naphtha...

Aha yes I didn't think of doing that yet.

About jungle spice: if you look it up here, you'll find that it was analyzed and found to be almost pure DMT. It's not unlikely that the difference in effects that many report are due to different expectations.

While I am certain the analysis was accurate, I feel like DMT 'Opens' or expands your sensitivity to other compounds (for example aromatherapy essential oils normally don't seem to effect me that much or I am not present enough to notice the effects) but on DMT I was totally blown away after having a whiff of some lemon oil... So even though it might be like 92% "Pure DMT" the color itself would suggest that it's not entirely 'just dmt' and these extra compounds, even if in minuscule quantities, can perhaps influence the experience in greater than expected ways if looking at things from a purely 'dose' perspective.

I tried running another pull on some bark from an earlier run and used the old naphtha, as well concurrently used new naphtha on some fresh bark for a new batch on the initial pull...
The old naphtha/bark resulted in some crystals but after letting it warm up they turned into the goo/drained out of the dish. The new run was a bit better resulting in much more solid crystals but even with that I encountered one of the corners of the dish had 'melted.' While it does appear the naphtha plays a large part perhaps the issue is indeed with humidity, seems like there has been a lot of reports from people in hot and humid environments. Maybe the older naptha is carrying a lot of water. I can't find the post but someone said that while DMT isn't very water soluble, perhaps something is going on with atmospheric CO2 and/or the goo is just the product I am trying to make... but not ideally because like I said, it's a total pain to handle and consume. Maybe for oral purposes it would be fine but I find that even dissolving the goo in alcohol and making enhanced leaf produces and end product that is hard to light/vape without an undue amount of heat, resulting in a crackling and popping of the leaf as well as a less than pleasant taste, not to mention greater effort to vape or smoke than straight freebase crystals.

 

[Transform]

...sounds like it's time to evaporate your naphtha...

Aha yes I didn't think of doing that yet.

A simple vinegar wash will get the goods out, and you get to keep your naphtha while avoiding contributing to ground-level ozone production.

The vinegar wash(es) can be processed as though they were a normal acidic phase.

 

[Icon]

I've been thinking about this lately. Take my speculations with a grain of salt.

If there is no jungle spice and DMT typically doesn't oxidize, and MHRB isn't fatty, then could it be assumed that tinted solvent = DMT?

I too notice that re-using the same solvent turns it dark and darker. And pulls less and less. I always assumed the color change was just plant fat accumulating as the bark breaks down over time. But if there's no fat...

I've also noticed that when the solvent seems too dirty and I switch to fresh solvent for the next pull, it too picks up a lot of color, as if it had been re-used 5x already.

So I think the yellow is just increasing in quantity in the bark soup over time, and doesn't have much to do with how many pulls the solvent has been through.

I think heat and stirring can play a role in yielding yellow solvent. I kept my last extraction about 140 F and stirred with a mud mixer (power tool) and even my first pull was yellow. I never thought about why but maybe heat and stirring is forming polymers.

Recently I had an experience where I was not able to backsalt DMT out of deep yellow solvent that was stirred up with a power drill. I performed a mini-A/B which pulled all of the yellow out of the solvent, leaving it crystal clear. Upon basing, the water also turned crystal clear and all the yellow oiled out to the surface. I was able to use the same solvent to pull DMT out of the yellow oil and was able to backsalt it out of the solvent.

This makes me wonder if all those extractions that I called finished because the later pulls were getting more yellow and precipitating less, were actually just clogged up with DMT polymers. Since polymers don't want to precipitate, each pull accumulates more and more, until the solvent is at capacity and can't pick up monomer DMT. Or maybe each time you re-pull with polymer laden solvent, some monomers get added to the polymer chain in solution.

Not really sure but in the future I'm not going to let low precipitation and yellow solvent stop me from repeating the A/B (which breaks up the polymer) and checking for more.

 

[Transform]

If there is no jungle spice and DMT typically doesn't oxidize, and MHRB isn't fatty, then could it be assumed that tinted solvent = DMT?

But DMT being oxidised and the formation of DMT-N-oxide can be two separate things. Oxidation can also be defined as the loss of one or more electrons, as explained in this other post. Furthermore, the electrons need not be fully 'lost' - charge transfer counts as a sort of halfway house in this.

DMT and its solutions are not necessarily coloured - it only takes a tiny amount of charge transfer oligomerisation to produce a noticeable shift of absorption from uv to blue light, which then causes the solution to appear yellow.

 

[TransistorBass]

Asking a dumb question, when you last pull precipitates / evaporates out to being some thin brown gunk, is that worth keeping to do a Heptane clean on?

I saved all my used Naphtha and its settled out some sediment while stood in the garage and now looks cleaner, I'm guessing I'd be good to go again with this same Naphtha??

 

[Varallo]

Yes, it’s good to reuse after decanting away from the sediment.

 

[Transform]

Asking a dumb question, when you last pull precipitates / evaporates out to being some thin brown gunk, is that worth keeping to do a Heptane clean on?

Heptane alone might prove frustrating - a mini A/B process would likely give results with greater overall ease.

The brown gunk very likely contains oligomers of various sizes which will dissolve in boiling heptane and then oil out again on cooling. Pipetting either the heptane or the oil away gets to be a thankless task. The mini A/B goes a long way towards breaking up the oligomers and increases the chances of getting a more crystalline, paler-coloured product.

 

[Transform]

Link to link to mini A/B description:

Which Non polar solvent? - Naphtha (petroleum ether 100-120) or (40-60) 60-80 fractions) - for freeze-precipitating

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