"rojo colorada" red vine

[ancientwarrior333]

hi,
i boiled a large amount of this strain of shredded red vine for several hours, with a good amount of chacruna and reduced but i felt absolutely NOTHING.

i felt no effects from this vine whatsoever, whereas i have brewed a significant amount less vine from other places and had powerful experiences.

is this material simply inactive, or weak, compared to, say, another vendor's vine?

another vendor's vine always works for me, even in a dose as low as 30g.

does anyone know what's up with this?

 

[jamie]

take a picture of the vine, and post it here. Without seeing the vine I can't really comment. It sounds like you have Banisteriopsis muricata, however muricata is a harmine active vine.

 

[ancientwarrior333]

no, it's Banisteriopsis colorada, that's what it said on the website, and on the package when i received it.

 

[SnozzleBerry]

no, it's Banisteriopsis colorada, that's what it said on the website, and on the package when i received it.

Just because it says something "on a website/package" doesn't mean it's true.

"B. colorada" is not the scientific name of any plant. Colorada simply means "red" in spanish. So you have "Banisteriopsis red."

As jamie has said, it's possible you have B. muricata...or it might be another vine. Unless you post an image we won't actually be able to help you out.


By the way, it's a bit offputting that you ask a question and request help, but then make declarations about the identity of something when you don't actually know. If you're in the position of needing help, it's probably better to take things under consideration rather than declaring that you know better

 

[ancientwarrior333]

thank you snozzleberry.

but do you think that they sent me something other than what they said they sent me?

doesn't that seem kind of odd?

actually, i know that it can happen, its even happened to me before when i ordered 100g hawaiian chacruna.

they sent me 100g of caapi leaves instead!

this was from a different vendor, though, but you're right it may be something else altogether.

i'll try and get a picture up.

one more thing; this probably doesn't belong here, but since i'm new i can't really post in many forums.

dmt or changa? i'll be working with changa but now i'm considering switching to crystal; i know that the people who make changa swear by it like it's the only way to travel, but then again there are crystal enthusiasts that say that dmt is superior (to changa). I just don't know.

 

[SnozzleBerry]

but do you think that they sent me something other than what they said they sent me?

doesn't that seem kind of odd?

I feel like you're not quite understanding. They said they sent you "Banisteriopsis red"...that's what they labelled the vine they sent you...that's what they called it from the beginning.

An analogy:

You tell me you have picked up "Canis white" from a dog kennel. From your description I say, "Oh, it sounds like you may have a dalmation, or perhaps some sort of mixed breed." You reply, "No, I got a Canis white."

I say, "The name you are giving me just means 'dog white', it's not the actual scientific name of a species of dog." You say, "So wait, they didn't give me a 'Canis white'? Do you think they gave me something other than what they said?"

The point is, 'B. colorada' is just as meaningless as 'Canis white' from the perspective of scientific nomenclature. The name doesn't equate to a plant in any formal sense. Without having additional information, we don't actually know what the appropriate botanical classification of this plant is.

 

[universecannon]

It's not uncommon at all for mislabeling to occur when it comes to vine.

How much did you take? I've had muricata that was extremely weak...But I've had very weak caapi as well.

No one will have any idea what it is until there is a picture though.

I don't see any reason why anyone would favor DMT over changa, but to each their own. The only way to know is to try. There is plenty of threads on that info here if you want to take a look.

 

[pitubo]

If you have a black light (ultraviolet light) available, you can easily test for the presence of harmine, the tell-tale sign of active Banisteriopsis species: under uv illumination, your brew should fluoresce brightly blue-green, even in strong dilution.

If a brew from your vine does not show this blue-green fluorescence, you can assume that your vendor is peddling a dodgy product.

The fluorescence effect is very pronounced, even at minute quantities, so you should be able to take a drop from an effective dosis of ayahuasca, put it in a large glass of water and still see the uv fluorescence light up the whole glass.

 

[ancientwarrior333]

hi everyone, thanks for your replies.

i don't have a backlight, but i have about 2 oz. left of this vine.

i will try and take a picture of it and upload it to the computer.

i don't have an expensive digital cellphone which can connect to the computer, i have a basic cheap $50 cellphone.

so i'll have to borrow someone else's phone to take the picture and upload it, it may take a while.

thanks for your help.