Salvia - A First-Time experience trip report...

[Periphery]

(Note: Although salvia is legally sold in my country as an incense, I cannot stress enough the seriousness of possessing or obtaining the substance in regions where it is illegal. Play it safe please! )

I recently obtained salvia from a local smoke shop. I was given a gram of leaf which was basted in 60x extract, so there was about 120mg of Salvinorin-A contained in the gram, give or take what was present on the leaf itself.(May not have been a totally accurate measurement, because it was commercially packaged.) Me and two friends were prepared to take the plunge into this new world. A bunch in our group had smoked salvia and majority agreed that it was a waste of time, a bad trip, and stupid. Well I beg to differ! While waiting for the bus I couldn't help it any longer, so I whipped out my pipe and instantly smoked a large hit with a bit of Lush on top (Does THC affect the high at all? I am not sure if it potentiated what I should have felt or dumbed it. :S)

All I can say is that before salvia I was unable to say I was high in the literal sense, but with this amazing new friend of mine I can now say just that. It literally felt like I was lifted up by a giant and put upon his shoulders. I felt the most amazing and rejuvinating sense of vertigo! "On top of the world" is the only phrase I can use to fully describe my feeling. I knew somehow that I was looking up at buildings, and the cars were eye leve, but they felt so far below me! My friend had visuals I think, Apparently the horizon was "rolling back on itself?" and he said he thought at one point that he was a slot machine.

My second time smoking this amazing substance was in one of the parks around my house on top of a hill. I wanted to go back, so I packed my pipe full of just the oiled leaf and smoked it to ashes, and instantly packed another one(Does a bong accent the high better?)It was Dusk by now and the purple on the horizon grew to give the whole world a slightly purple hue. I felt a tingling begin in my right middle fingertip and slowly work its way up my arm, over and around my head, to stop at my left middle fingertip. This was scary for me at first because the tingling was literally cutting through my body(So to speak) I was beginning to panic but then decided the best thing would be to accept it. Once I did that I noticed the tingling was a black, energy/smoke type substance, which was bordering my body on a two dimensional level. When I looked to either side of me, the silhouette was repeated end over end into the distance, and all around me there was just feild (even though the park was in the middle of a suburb.)It was amazing how linear the shadows were. After that I came to because my friend was laughing at me. The whole trip lasted about three minutes. I am definitely going to try this again on my own, in a comfortable, secluded location so me and salvia can get to know eachother on a more personal level.

All in all... I really enjoyed it


Regards,

Periphery

 

[Metanoia]

Nice report.

(Does THC affect the high at all? I am not sure if it potentiated what I should have felt or dumbed it. :S)

It doesn't seem to potentiate the effects, for me at least. I would have a normal trip, and then feel stoned when I returned. Try some Dream Herb (Calea Zacatechichi) mixed with your Salvia That has a pronounced potentiating effect.

My friend had visuals I think, Apparently the horizon was "rolling back on itself?"

I know exactly what he means. I get this when I smoke plain leaf, even with my eyes closed. The "folding back on itself", then with higher doses it's like a "blooming". The folding is somewhat reminiscent of the sky fold in the movie Inception.

I'm glad to see that you enjoyed it. Like a lot of your friends, most people think it's a waste of time, stupid, bad trip, etc. etc.

When really given a chance with an open mind, Salvia is a very beautiful and interesting plant.

 

[Periphery]

Try some Dream Herb (Calea Zacatechichi) mixed with your Salvia

Thanks for suggesting I will definitely look into obtaining that!

When really given a chance with an open mind, Salvia is a very beautiful and interesting plant.

From what I've experienced I would have to agree. I noticed once you disregard that empty feeling it is actually quite a nice state of conciousness to be in. Grabbing some more leaf soon. But I noticed when I was there the 20x was alot cheaper I could buy three grams for the price of the gram of 60x I had ended up purchasing. I have been reading the salvia forum alot on the nexus and I've read that going above 20x is kind of pointless. Is this true?


Regards,

Periphery

 

[Metanoia]

Grabbing some more leaf soon. But I noticed when I was there the 20x was alot cheaper I could buy three grams for the price of the gram of 60x I had ended up purchasing. I have been reading the salvia forum alot on the nexus and I've read that going above 20x is kind of pointless. Is this true?

It's just that you really don't know what potency you're getting with commercial extracts. They're labeled as 60x or 20x, but that's more than likely not true. The 60x is probably closer to a true 20x or 30x, and the 20x more like a true 10x. The only way to be certain of your extract strength is to make them yourself.

I say go for the 20x. It's cheaper, and the more you smoke it, the stronger it will become (reverse tolerance). Anything beyond a true 20x is kind of pointless. A normal dosage of a true 20x is miniscule, a tiny wisp of smoke. Just don't overload the bowl with the 20x thinking that it will be so much weaker. Start small and work your way up is the best way to approach this plant.

 

[Periphery]

you really don't know what potency you're getting with commercial extracts.

Agreed, sir. I feel that that truly wasn't 60X, even when I purchased it. I had read up on salvia for nigh on a month before I made the move to go get it. I was using a cigarette pipe which loads about 5 mg. Very small doses. I would have liked to smoke it in a bong or water pipe personally. I don't mind though still a great experience, and that's what next time is for .

 

[rOm]

Nice report.

(Does THC affect the high at all? I am not sure if it potentiated what I should have felt or dumbed it. :S)

It doesn't seem to potentiate the effects, for me at least. I would have a normal trip, and then feel stoned when I returned. Try some Dream Herb (Calea Zacatechichi) mixed with your Salvia That has a pronounced potentiating effect.

My friend had visuals I think, Apparently the horizon was "rolling back on itself?"

I know exactly what he means. I get this when I smoke plain leaf, even with my eyes closed. The "folding back on itself", then with higher doses it's like a "blooming". The folding is somewhat reminiscent of the sky fold in the movie Inception.

I'm glad to see that you enjoyed it. Like a lot of your friends, most people think it's a waste of time, stupid, bad trip, etc. etc.

When really given a chance with an open mind, Salvia is a very beautiful and interesting plant.

I've never really could appreciate yet calea with salvia as I mix them only with spice.
But I've found that amanita pantherina taken in low dose before a salvia smoke prolonge the effects.
The experience will have to be repeated but I feel the can mix well together.

Dioxippus what ratio calea to salvia would you advice ?

 

[Metanoia]

I've never really could appreciate yet calea with salvia as I mix them only with spice.
But I've found that amanita pantherina taken in low dose before a salvia smoke prolonge the effects.
The experience will have to be repeated but I feel the can mix well together.

Dioxippus what ratio calea to salvia would you advice ?

I made some changa recently with Salvia leaf, Calea leaf, and Blue Lily. It is very nice.

Do be careful with the Amanita's and Salvia. I did that once and it was very strange. Almost felt like the mushrooms and Salvia were battling each other instead of synergizing. I took a relatively large dose of the mushrooms though, perhaps it's worth another try with a lower dose.

I mix both the leaf and the extracts. I have some Calea 10x that I mix with my Salvia 10x, but I also mix plain Salvia leaf and plain Calea leaf. The Calea 10x mixed with Salvia leaf was very interesting. It really strengthened the Salvia experience and made it last much longer. When I mix them it's usually 50:50, or maybe a little more Calea than Salvia.

 

[rOm]

Thanks for the precision.
After almost a year break, it seems like I'm back to do some work "home". Yet another home this salviaspace.

 

[BlackSun]

I've never really could appreciate yet calea with salvia as I mix them only with spice.
But I've found that amanita pantherina taken in low dose before a salvia smoke prolonge the effects.
The experience will have to be repeated but I feel the can mix well together.

Dioxippus what ratio calea to salvia would you advice ?

I made some changa recently with Salvia leaf, Calea leaf, and Blue Lily. It is very nice.

Do be careful with the Amanita's and Salvia. I did that once and it was very strange. Almost felt like the mushrooms and Salvia were battling each other instead of synergizing. I took a relatively large dose of the mushrooms though, perhaps it's worth another try with a lower dose.

I mix both the leaf and the extracts. I have some Calea 10x that I mix with my Salvia 10x, but I also mix plain Salvia leaf and plain Calea leaf. The Calea 10x mixed with Salvia leaf was very interesting. It really strengthened the Salvia experience and made it last much longer. When I mix them it's usually 50:50, or maybe a little more Calea than Salvia.

I have heard that salvia and LSD have a similar reaction, though no experience with that myself. I don't think i would ever try to combine the two. Too much sensory overload seems like it could be quite bad for your health, physically, mentally and spiritually.

As for nice combinations with salvia, I remember reading on Erowid that cannabis has reportedly been found to dampen the experience, but my experiences have seemed to prove otherwise. Perhaps cannabis counteracts some of the effects on the brain, while it puts you in a better, more receptive mindset, increasing the experience. I can't give anything more than theories to explain it, but from experience it certainly seems to be increasing the effect and personal feeling of the experience.

 

[rOm]

I wouldn't want canabos ad fog to the experience nor paranoia.
I've thought abput combining salvia and lsd but TBH, I've been too scared it would turn out an insane breakthrough lasting forever. But maybe on the plateau or near the end but before you turn dumb by too much cerebral activity, this could be nice.
Like changa and lsd is nice. Very inspiring and beautiful. Well, many psychedelic combine very well with acid.