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Salvia dorrii - Purple Sage

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gigaschatten

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Native Americans and in particular the Ute Tribe from Utah and Colorado had several uses for this plant: leaves were smoked as a tobacco substitute for their mildly hallucinogenic effects (Tobacco sage does not appear to be orally active[8]); it was used in sweatlodge ceremonies by throwing small amounts of the leaves on the burning rocks used to make steam.

Western tribes used a tea mixed with Echinacea angustifolia, Veratrum, and Salvia dorrii to reduce the size of cancerous tumors. The compounds in Salvia dorrii were reported to potentiate the medicinal properties of Veratrum root while reducing the toxic side effects of the steroidal alkaloids found in Veratrum species. Salvia dorrii has mildly laxative effects when ingested. [9]

This plant can be made into a tea, which decreases sweating, salivation, and mucous secretions in the sinuses, throat, and lungs. Cold tea can be a good stomach tonic, while a lukewarm tea is good for treating sore throats. The leaves can also be used as a uterine hemostatic tea for heavy menstruation; however, since it can also decrease lactation, nursing mothers are advised not to use it.[10]

Some chemical components found in Salvia dorrii include Salvidorol and two epimeric abietane diterpenes (2 and 3).[11]
Source: Wikipedia

I have a plant, though it's much too small for experimentation yet. The leaves are sticky with a resin like substance that smells exactly like Cannabis.

A few pictures:

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Ain't she a beauty?

According to this source, the plant contains chemical agents that can be extracted using acetone or ethanol, similarly to Salvia divinorum.

I don't have any experience smoking the plain leaves yet, but an extraction may be interesting to intensify the said "mildly hallucinogenic" effects. I think this candidate is promising.

Any input, experiences, etc.?
 
I don't know why there are not many reports on this it's native in california,but you just increased my interest by describing the smell now I want plants,or seeds(could you pm me where you got yours?) although I hear they are somewhat slow growing.
 
Kannamate said:
I don't know why there are not many reports on this it's native in california,but you just increased my interest by describing the smell now I want plants,or seeds(could you pm me where you got yours?) although I hear they are somewhat slow growing.

My source is probably in the wrong country. You should have no problem finding a vendor on the net though.
 
Why has this thread been moved to "Salvia Divinorum"??? Aside from being in the same genus, it has nothing to do with Salvia divinorum.
 
Well, latest news... my plant is dead. There is no more green on it. It was the last sample the vendor had and I couldn't find another in Europe. An american vendor I found does not deliver to Europe. Pretty sad.
 
gigaschatten said:
Well, latest news... my plant is dead. There is no more green on it. It was the last sample the vendor had and I couldn't find another in Europe. An american vendor I found does not deliver to Europe. Pretty sad.


Its ok dont cry or bring me down you can find seeds here. Your friend is not dead just sleeping waiting for you to give life again.


"Desert Purple Sage" - Salvia dorrii
"Purple Sage" - Salvia leucophylla
"Purple Sage" - Salvia dorrii
"Purple Sage" - Salvia officinalis Purpurascens





M.V.
 
Many types of sages have similar essential oils as cannabis.

I am not sure of the diterpenoid (class of compounds salvinorin A is in) content of other sages but diterpenoids are usually soluble in alcohol and acetone.

Have you heard of these guys from long ago http://en.wikipedia.org/...ders_of_the_Purple_Sage a good old sixties band.

Panama red is a classic!!
 
So, six or seven years ago everyone from the nook to the nexus was interested in this. Anyone ever try it? :lol:

I stumbled 'pon a seeding plant today and remembered this thread. If nothing else it sure does smell nice, sort of like common sage with turpentine and sagebrush mixed in.
A search of a native american ethnobotany database listed many uses, none of them entheogenic. The general theme seems to be colds and headaches. Oddly, no tribes used it as a simple beverage.
 
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