Angel_Above
Rising Star
Well I don't know where else to put this, I don't really understand the rules of this forum too well (sorry mods!).
I think I only get nursery priviledges.
At any rate, I decided I wanted to smoke a small bowl of plain leaf last night, to sort of gauge the effects of a "1x" extract.
Before this experience, I smoked salvia 3 times, the first time I got an intense body high, the second I had my first breakthrough, and the third was the most intense breakthrough where I met entities Katie and Tommy who referred to themselves as "Reality Genies" (If I remember correctly...).
I take a seat and meditate for a short amount of time, just in case something very weird happens.
I took the first inhale, a big hit, and held for 20 seconds.... Nothing.
Finished the bowl in another hit, this time holding the flame on the salvia for the entire duration of my inhalation... held for 20 seconds... then I started feeling odd.
I looked around and had no visuals, but I felt like the top of my head was being tugged downward (toward the floor) and I decided it would be best to close my eyes.
When I closed my eyes, I began to see faces of peoople... I kind of thought it was Katie and Tommy reappearing, but this time was much weirder than the last. There were facing turning towards my direction all around me, and I began to see the "body" of these beings which were hands that went on for infinity, as well as legs.
It's so hard to explain it, but when I was there I was like "Oh ok, interesting." I opened my eyes to see if consensus reality was visualistic, it wasn't. I was completely fine, minus the fact that when I would close my eyes I saw people extending on for infinity.
If someone were to speak to me, I would be completely fine with conversing with this person. I just decided to sit and ride it out. The faces weren't menacing, but they had absolutely no expression. Sort of like looking at me with the face I had on.
This, to me, proves the reverse tolerance. First salvia trip was 10x, second was 15x (4-5 big hits), third was 80x unstandardized and I took one hit, and now I smoked some plain leaf and felt like I had a semi-breakthrough since I met some people.
Had I smoked more, they would have conversed with me. I didn't have time to pack more because it was in my room and I was a few rooms away.
Is this a normal effect for plain leaf? I mean for a fourth trip, this was ridiculous, I didn't expect this.
I only use the word "ridiculous" because I don't feel I can learn much from this nonsense trip (that's exactly what I thought about the last one, but it showed me more than any other trip of my life).
Perhaps I saw what Alex Grey was trying to convey in his "Wall of Being?" Because it really felt like a "wall" or sorts, that was surrounding me in all directions. I even moved my head with my eyes closed to look at different parts of the wall, but it just keep repeating itself faster than I could analyze it.
Lady Salvia... you're sneaky!
I think I only get nursery priviledges.
At any rate, I decided I wanted to smoke a small bowl of plain leaf last night, to sort of gauge the effects of a "1x" extract.
Before this experience, I smoked salvia 3 times, the first time I got an intense body high, the second I had my first breakthrough, and the third was the most intense breakthrough where I met entities Katie and Tommy who referred to themselves as "Reality Genies" (If I remember correctly...).
I take a seat and meditate for a short amount of time, just in case something very weird happens.
I took the first inhale, a big hit, and held for 20 seconds.... Nothing.
Finished the bowl in another hit, this time holding the flame on the salvia for the entire duration of my inhalation... held for 20 seconds... then I started feeling odd.
I looked around and had no visuals, but I felt like the top of my head was being tugged downward (toward the floor) and I decided it would be best to close my eyes.
When I closed my eyes, I began to see faces of peoople... I kind of thought it was Katie and Tommy reappearing, but this time was much weirder than the last. There were facing turning towards my direction all around me, and I began to see the "body" of these beings which were hands that went on for infinity, as well as legs.
It's so hard to explain it, but when I was there I was like "Oh ok, interesting." I opened my eyes to see if consensus reality was visualistic, it wasn't. I was completely fine, minus the fact that when I would close my eyes I saw people extending on for infinity.
If someone were to speak to me, I would be completely fine with conversing with this person. I just decided to sit and ride it out. The faces weren't menacing, but they had absolutely no expression. Sort of like looking at me with the face I had on.
This, to me, proves the reverse tolerance. First salvia trip was 10x, second was 15x (4-5 big hits), third was 80x unstandardized and I took one hit, and now I smoked some plain leaf and felt like I had a semi-breakthrough since I met some people.
Had I smoked more, they would have conversed with me. I didn't have time to pack more because it was in my room and I was a few rooms away.
Is this a normal effect for plain leaf? I mean for a fourth trip, this was ridiculous, I didn't expect this.
I only use the word "ridiculous" because I don't feel I can learn much from this nonsense trip (that's exactly what I thought about the last one, but it showed me more than any other trip of my life).
Perhaps I saw what Alex Grey was trying to convey in his "Wall of Being?" Because it really felt like a "wall" or sorts, that was surrounding me in all directions. I even moved my head with my eyes closed to look at different parts of the wall, but it just keep repeating itself faster than I could analyze it.
Lady Salvia... you're sneaky!
but I like the sublingual/quid way to build up more of a consistent context of work with it. Once you're sensitive with this diterpenoïd you can have very good journey and this way (through the mouth skin) is more a beautiful energy ( how can I say, more managable, less risk of disphoric experience?).