sassafras test

[remediosvaro]

i am very confused about 69ron, he posted some good information, and some other stuff about oils that seemed very off, and very possibly a form of advertising, so i decided to test sassafras, with chamomile and cinnamon, just as he said he did to get effects.

i mixed cinnamon powder, chamomile tea, and sassafras rootbark powder in a teabag, boiled it with 3 spoons sugar, and am almost done with my first cup. im sure im feeling something, but not extreme euphoria like mdma, i feel small amounts of pressure on my temples, similar to a small amount of yopo snuff. im going to reuse this teabag and ill report later to say if there were anymore effects.

but so far it seems mild, and very neutral in pleasure.

 

[remediosvaro]

alright, i finished my second cup of tea, during drinking the head pressure increased quite a bit, but now the effects have weakened now, and i felt pretty nauseous, but that was fixed with some milk. all in all there were some very mild effects, but im pretty sure 69ron was over-exaggerating... there may be something other than safrole in sassafras but only in small concentrations.

all in all i think this is pretty useless unless a full spectrum extract is made, ill get to doing that later.

if any of you wanna try this and tell me if you feel any effects that would be great.

 

[I AM SWIM]

nah i'm good

 

[Horizon_Bloom]

This is an old, dead thread, I know...

But SWIM will actually be trying this out tomorrow to ingest before a light parade party.

I would note that the OP didn't follow 69ron's recipe, so far as I can tell- primarily, they boiled the tea, and they didn't even mention if they removed the safrole or not.

SWIM used anhydrous acetone as a wash instead of MEK, as he does not have access to MEK regularly.

SWIM's tek:

Fresh chunked rootbark (27.4g) ground finely in a coffee grinder.
Placed in 1L glass container and saturated with 200ml anhydrous acetone at room temp (~72*F).
Agitate to a homogeneous mixture and soak for 2 hours, periodically homogenizing with agitation.

Gravity filtered though coffee filter, finishing with fresh acetone to wash the 1L container and add to the filtrate.
Additional acetone to further wash the filtrate, altogether around 20ml additional anhydrous acetone was used.
The filtrate was gathered in the filter, and squeezed over a fresh coffee filter. This sped filtration greatly.

Acetone was discarded, and the powdered, washed sassafras rootbark was air dried 24 hours, with occasional open air oven heat bath.(<90*F)
Filtrate stopped smelling of acetone after 3 hours, but not having a vacuum filter, SWIM sided on caution and preparedness.
Final dried weight was 22.1g (*note: 27.4g - 22.1g = 5.3g material removed from bark. 24% by weight)

The Filtrate was mixed with ~300ml of cold distilled water. agitated, multiple times, to homogeneity.
The mixture was steeped at room temp for ~6 hours and then added to the refrigerator.

It will be strained tomorrow and prepared with honey, stevia and very likely accompanied with coffee and milk (non-simultaneously).


I guess, after studying these dead threads, SWIM is going to tell me if this was a bunch of bullshit or not. At worst, IMO, it will be an expensive cup of tea.

Will report SWIM's experience.

 

[Horizon_Bloom]

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[Jees]

Thank you for checking out and sharing.
I've some sassafras in da house so eagerly waiting for the result.
:thumb_up:

 

[Horizon_Bloom]

Today's update:

Before bed, SWIM decided to strain through coffee filter and prepare the tea ahead of time.

The liquid was almost odorless with an amber color. The juice of three small lemons was squeezed into the liquid and additional distilled water was added to make 2 cups, then left to sit in the refrigerator.

This morning, there was massive sediment in the jar. The liquid is also a lighter amber and has no smell at all. A drop on the tongue tasted bitter like strong tea. A siphon was used to remove almost all the tea without disturbing the sediment. The sediment was collected with additional distilled water (total of 200ml) and set aside for later testing. Smells intensely of the characteristic sassafras scent and is dark brown.

It is suspected that most if not all of this sediment is simply the pulp of the bark with other non water solubles. There is no perceptible layer of oils or residue remaining in the siphoned liquid, so the likelihood of fats, oils and waxes seems low. Alternatively, some of the citric acid could have formed a citrate of something in there, though the actual action and chemical possibility would have to researched further for any additional comment on that. It's most likely just rootbark sediment.

SWIM will be assaying the tea in just a few hours, I will report his experiences tomorrow or the next day.

 

[Horizon_Bloom]

today's dose of excellence is brought to you by letter X, for unknown.


bioassalence is as follows:

5 pm, start consuming tea (2 cups).

+2.00 started tripping. It really is a loose sense of the term, tripping. SWIM can noticed a loose sense of the term and tried to make it more intimate.
+5:00 Seem to have peeked with something that I would rate a 6/10 for mushrooms and a 3/10 for cactus.

On a mushroom scale, I would give it a 7/10 rating. SWIM definitely got more than would consider placebo effect, even when dosing with .5 grams marijuana to potentiate the effects.

at most, SWIM reports of potentiation.

At +0.55 SWIM smoked a .35g spliff, which definitely felt like two joints of 1g each. SWIM has smoked daily for over a decade.

At max, all SWIM felt was genuine warmth for the first but (an hour), coupled with intense shading contrast as a visual.

seriously and honestly, SWIM might pursue sassafras as a sacramental herb in future rituals, but aside from what would have been removed from said sample (Perhaps incompletely) might actually be the psychocomponent that links from SWIM to everything else that is SWIM. For now, SWIM has learned all he can from sassafras. Two more (at least) pulls/reductions can be performed on the same material, but ATM SWIM is going to take a break.

effects peaked/plateaued at roughly 5 hours after ingestion. Will report tomorrow on hangover, etc.

 

[locojuiceman]

69ron is an anomaly on the nexus nowadays. I haven't seen him post around anywhere nor elsewhere in a long time.....
Anyways, the information he did post, about essential oils, seems to be worthwhile but yet can be difficult to gauge. I tried the sass thing and couldn't stomach it. I tried the Basil Oil thing too with varying degree's of success but none like some had said where I'd be full blown tripping my face off ...
And I'm no 'stranger' to Tripping
While he did post much valuable info, there are other things posted that, well, it is either placebo, mild or not-all-the-right-info ... ??
I dunno, but I did find much of his info accurate after applying it ....
The Sassafrass thing though, you gotta be careful with that as it's a Volatile Oil your ingesting .. it made me puke it right back up in minutes with sass burps for the est of the day..
Some of the best info I ever got from 69ron was on the 'Aldehydes', as in, ingesting an aldehyde whether it be cinnamon or sherry [ or both ] and then 20-30 minutes later, cheeking some HBRW seeds [ only cheeked four ! ] ... THAT spun me for an intense ride as well as everyone else who tried it with me !!
Be careful with the Sass man.

 

[Horizon_Bloom]

Actually, the oils should have been removed by the acetone wash. And there wasn't any point in the process where heat could have volatilized something. I've also read 69ron's tests of the allylbenzenes in certain oils. The Elemi oil is my main interest, given it's similarity to SWIMs favorite cactus. Actually, I think I stumbled on an image of the elemicin molecule before I read his post, and the first thing I did was bug my chemist friend about how hard it would be to aminate that double bond, haha.



SWIM reported back this morning after sound sleep [my notes in brackets]:

The effects were generally mild, peaking with visual subtleties of high-contrast in the shading of objects, as well as a sense of hyper-definition or "ultra-realness". I spent the night with friends and experienced increased energy, lowered appetite and increased sociability. There were times that I simply couldn't stop talking, but I never felt like I was charged up or anything, either. Like having a 5-hour energy shot vs. tons of caffeine, not amped, just awake. I also experienced reduced sensitivity to cold- not 'warming' really, just 'not cold'. [some people report a warming effect, I found it interesting SWIM would describe it this way]

Towards the end of the night, I started drinking with my friends. I wasn't so much feeling the effects at that point, other than the weed I smoked earlier, so I said what the hell and took a few shots. as the night ended, I was really drunk and uncoordinated, more so than just the shots alone would have caused. I walked home and went to bed around [+11:00?]. Dreams felt ultra real, but super mundane. I can recall multiple times while dreaming thinking "Wait, this is a dream? Wow, this is a boring dream!"

I woke up after about 7 hours of sleep. No hangover, not sleepy even. I didn't have anything to do this morning though, so I laid in bed with my cat and "twilight dreamed" [subject likes to 'snooze' in attempts to lucid dream] with ease and proficiency for about 2 hours. The odd part was, every dream I had, I was aware of, but I didn't really want to 'control' the dream, you know?

Today, I feel normal, level- a little bit sensitive to coffee, but that's all.

SWIM is a healthy adult male with no known allergies, approx. 210 lb and an even, regular metabolism.

 

[downwardsfromzero]

Great that you tested this out. What you report sounds similar to the effects I get from nutmeg tincture and some related potions. There's a lot of interesting data to be gleaned from the 69ron threads...