Scared of my own stuff

[5th Dimensional]

Since I made my own stuff, now knowing the chemicals used in the process, I am now scared to smoke it, I was much better off before I knew about the chemicals involved. I suppose a similar analogy would be that I like beef, but would not at all want to visit a slaughterhouse. To add to the fact, my own stuff burns my throat and lungs, but this never happened before with stuff that I had in the past from other people (I know it probably contains more impurities, but am being resistant to melting and re-x-ing for fear of loss of product, plus my stuff smells really good, like new leather shoes and wax.) But I suppose I will just have to get over it, pay the price, abide by my own analogy. Anyone else ever felt this way?

Thanks!

 

[Shaolin]

I know it probably contains more impurities, but am being resistant to melting and re-x-ing for fear of loss of product

If you lose it, it wasn't DMT in the first place.

Don't damage your health by being greedy.

 

[DeMenTed]

If your spice is burning your throat then it needs to be re-x'd

Don't be scared to do a re-x as it's ultra easy

 

[olympus mon]

I was super nervous to vape my first extraction. Did I do it right? Am I going to die? all these things went through my head but everything was perfect. Its common. But if you have burning in your throat and you are sure your not applying too much heat when vaping then yes you should re X.

 

[Sky Motion]

re-x'ing is so easy and the only thing you lose is the crap.

 

[DeMolecularTraveler]

You are NOT making the spice, you are EXTRACTING it=) I understand what youre saying, but if you did the extraction correct, and re-x, you are safe.
Yes, you can use some nasty chemicals to do this, but those chemicals are not part of the end product.
Basic chemistry =)
Rexing is your friend

 

[Kobranek]

Everything has a risk, everything! The difference between a poison and a medicine is the dose.
Extracting dmt is no different than what pharmacologists do when they extract other products for consumption...have you ever seen inside a vitamin producers lab? You would definitely think twice about taking vitamins again that is for sure!

 

[5th Dimensional]

Thanks you guys. I just got finished trying two different batches of the kind I was talking about...WOW. I am actually in the process of coming down as I write. Not as harsh as it was the other day, but still burns my throat more than it should. Should I wait longer to inhale, let the smoke swarm around a bit?

Yep, screw greed, I will just have to take the plunge and do it for my own peace of mind for the very least, because hyper-spacing can already be overwhelming enough Not my first DMT experiences (at least 40-50), but my first extraction.

I have decided to re-x.

Thanks!

 

[VoidTraveler]

Thanks you guys. I just got finished trying two different batches of the kind I was talking about...WOW. I am actually in the process of coming down as I write. Not as harsh as it was the other day, but still burns my throat more than it should. Should I wait longer to inhale, let the smoke swarm around a bit?

Letting the smoke 'swarm' around does nothing more than let it cool down a bit. From what I've understood, the harshness can come from two major factors: (1) You're overheating your spice / burning it. (2) There is residual lye / solvent in your spice.

The first one can be overcome by applying heat more gently and the second by doing a re-x. Good luck with your re-x and let us know how it went!

 

[5th Dimensional]

Let's see, heat the naptha in a shotglass in boiling water like the FAQs says, then decant the naptha away from the goo...Last time I tried that, the bottom stuff turned to swirling soot at the bottom of the glass but not goo...should I put the shotglass in the fridge for a while for the bottom soot to turn to goo?

 

[Leon Trout]

definitely do the re-x... one of my first batches was real harsh as well... i did the re-x & came out with some beautiful, snow white crystals... yes, i lost some weight, but christinasidecar that was some good spice... i firmly believe that the more love you show the molecule, the more love it will give back...

that said, i don't re-x anymore... after that batch i inserted a simple sodium-carbonate wash & have had the most lovely spice i can imagine, with out having to bother freeze-preciping twice...

another thing... if it's gotten less harsh over the course of a few days, i'd say there may still be some solvent traces that haven't completely dissipated... a bit of air-drying may help this... i always like to put my spice in a pile on some glass & chop it up with a razor, scrape it around, divide it into little piles, spread it as far as it will, just basically play with it... helps air it out, & i feel a bit like Tony Montana when i'm doing it, albeit with a smaller pile, less money, & no criminal enterprise to speak of... so maybe i don't feel a thing like Tony Montana, but i do get the last of that solvent out of my spice so it's tasty refreshing good...

hang in there man, you'll get it all dialed in with just a little experimentation...

 

[5th Dimensional]

What are some local sources of sodium carbonate that I can find? I used Roebix drain cleaner for my sodium hydroxide, but where can I find %100 sodium carbonate in a product?

Thanks!

 

[Pup Tentacle]

Also know as soda ash, used in making trippy dyes (check places that sell stuff for dying fabric). Also known as washing soda (maybe a grocery store in the laundry section). I think it has a purpose in swimming pool chemistry as well. That's the best I can do...good luck!

 

[Bill Cipher]

You can convert sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) into sodium carbonate by sticking it in a microwave on high for five minutes, or baking in an oven at 200 degrees for 45-60 minutes.

FYI - If you have what looks like swirling soot at the bottom of your shot glass, you were definitely in need of re-x'ing. Try heptane instead of naptha, though - 20 mls per gram. All info needed is in the wiki.

 

[d*l*b]

You can also convert sodium bicarbonate on the stove. Heating it for 10–15 minutes in a pan, giving it an occasional swirl about will do the job.

Conversion of Sodium Bicarbonate into Sodium Carbonate - DMT-Nexus Wiki

wiki.dmt-nexus.me

 

[5th Dimensional]

Will do!, Thanks...

Is there a way on this site to get notifications somehow of posts that you have posted on, not just posts that you have started, so that you don't have to keep checking all of them?


Thanks!


Sodium carbonate wash it is I guess!...better then hexane? or is it just personal preference?

 

[Leon Trout]

Arm & Hammer Super Washing Soda... available at just about any big box grocery store, in the laundry aisle... it's 100% sodium carbonate... & the big box is less than $5, more than you'll ever need...

& i like to pull with heptane from the get-go... it's a much better pulling solvent than naptha, if a little harder to get ahold of...

 

[Electric Kool-Aid]

also be very careful while pulling the solvent when extracting. the little bit of brown goo is NOT your friend!

tip#1
pull with an eye dropper, place it on the side of the glass jar where the surface tension is and pull. if you get some goo in the dropper, just squirt it back in slowly. pull until you cant get anymore solvant without goo.

tip# 2
if you by accidently get goo into your precip tray, then just tip the tray so the solvent goes to one side, then get a tissue and wipe up the goo that sticks to the bottom. simple and effective, but care must be taken to have a clean product!

 

[5th Dimensional]

So you use heptane instead of naptha at very first Leon? No naptha in the MHRB/NaOh base mixture?

 

[Leon Trout]

absolutely... using 2 pulls of 75 ml each (on a 100g mhrb/100g NaOH/600ml water mix) i generally pull between 1.2~1.4%... & both pulls are in & out within 20 minutes... it's real effective & pulls real clean... i'm usually done with everything except the freeze precip within 30 minutes tops... i do use a sep funnel though, it makes things soooo much easier...