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ApacheHeyoka

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Hi guys,

I apologize if sometimes I might be not completely precise.
I tried to grow just couple of times and only this time panaeolus cyanescens.
These are from the Copelandia kit in picture.
They looks green-black, I thought I had to left them until the spores drops.
Did I left them too long? Is this mold maybe?

Thank you for everyone who spent time reading this.

Have a great dayn’nite.
ApacheHeyoka
 

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Hi ApacheHeyoka,

They look fine, just bruised and withered and maybe starting to decay, dry them before they degrade further. They look so tiny perhaps they didn't have good growing conditions.
 
Sakkadelic said:
Hi ApacheHeyoka,

They look fine, just bruised and withered and maybe starting to decay, dry them before they degrade further. They look so tiny perhaps they didn't have good growing conditions.
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Hi Sakkadelic,

Thank you for your precise answer.
They look really tiny.
They are in the bag they are usually shipped with. I read it is not good for ventilation.
The next flush already popped out without soaking and the bottom looks wet. Also it is the first time I saw this.
Can it be I ruined them with water contact?
Sorry for the multiple questions.

Thank you in advance.
ApacheH
 
oh no problem, I've only grown cubensis a couple of times so I don't know about pan. cyan growing, but in general yes if there is excess moisture it is not a good sign. are you giving them proper fresh air exchange? can you please describe in more detail how you're performing the fruiting stage?
 
Sakkadelic said:
oh no problem, I've only grown cubensis a couple of times so I don't know about pan. cyan growing, but in general yes if there is excess moisture it is not a good sign. are you giving them proper fresh air exchange? can you please describe in more detail how you're performing the fruiting stage?
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Sure, once a day I took them off and nebulize water inside the bag. Plus three/four times a day I squeeze the bag and reopen it. It took exactly 14 days from the opening to the harvesting
 
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is the bag sealed or are there any breathing holes in the bag? I don't understand what you mean by squeezing the bag

I would keep the bag open until excess moisture evaporates, and you don't need to take them out of the bag to mist them, just open the bag and lightly mist the substrate (not the bag) once a day if things look dry. and yes multiple times a day open the bag and gently fan it to get fresh air in there.

this a little bit different but you might find useful information there Using Ziplocs (Ziplocks) as Fruiting Chambers (FC)
 
Sakkadelic said:
is the bag sealed or are there any breathing holes in the bag? I don't understand what you mean by squeezing the bag

I would keep the bag open until excess moisture evaporates, and you don't need to take them out of the bag to mist them, just open the bag and lightly mist the substrate (not the bad) once a day if things look dry. and yes multiple times a day open the bag and gently fan it to get fresh air in there
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Before, I had folded the top of the plastic bag and closed it with a paper clip. Now, it’s fully unfolded and held shut in the middle.
Sorry, by squeezing I meant I expelled the air from the bag by compressing it, then allow it to draw air back in by reopening it.
Many thanks for the advices.
I hope this flush can grow better following them.
 
Sakkadelic said:
this a little bit different but you might find useful information there Using Ziplocs (Ziplocks) as Fruiting Chambers (FC)
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Even thought I find it interesting and might even try it sometimes :LOL:. I really do not like something like that posted to unexperienced growers.

I in most things am a believer in "You have to know the rules to be able to bend them". It works in music, you had to have done it proper way to be able to play different. Otherwise you will bend it too much and it stops working. If you want to bend it, you need to know it by hearth and understand it completely.

Things like this might set up unexperienced growers for failure which might discourage them to not grow and that would be a shame.

I personally have not grown panaeolus cyanescens yet. Even though I have the spores, pour my own petri dishes and do afar work. I consider them bit harder and more finicky than cubes. I for sure will grow them some day... And I have grown considerable amount of mushrooms.

It looks like this is evolving into rant :rolleyes:, I really don't like kits for mushrooms I guess. They expect people to follow instructions while most people can't follow instructions... They probably count on some levels of temperature and humidity that cannot be counted on. But the worst part is that usually people just skip the learning because of them. "You don't need to know what you are doing just buy our kit and you will have your mushrooms in no time without any need for knowledge." I feel like the knowledge is the point of life, what a terrible way to skip it. You can understand what is happening, know what you need to do and how you need to do it and then watch it with awe and expectation. Instead you buy a kit and then this happens 🙃.

First time I tried to grow mushrooms I have tried to wing it. And I just wasted 2 vials of spores. Then I had to go, and learn it anyway.

ApacheHeyoka - they do not have enough air - that is why they look like spaghetti. You don't want to have pooling water on the top of the substrate. But condensation on the bag, or water on the side is ok. Look for the "surface conditons" and "floating lotus" on shroomery. Also I would read some panaeolus threads and TEKs.

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