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sitter or no sitter?
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I certainly have to say no sitter. I don't like anything that might distract me and a person can be a huge distraction.
Not to mention dmt can make it look like I am possessed (might actually be getting possessed) or speak in tongues, or just generally do strange apparently disconcerting things that would make me feel embarrassed. When I am going in deep I like to be alone, so far I have yet to meet anyone I trust enough to share the deep ones with.
Not to mention dmt can make it look like I am possessed (might actually be getting possessed) or speak in tongues, or just generally do strange apparently disconcerting things that would make me feel embarrassed. When I am going in deep I like to be alone, so far I have yet to meet anyone I trust enough to share the deep ones with.
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When I was starting out (and that would be at the beginning of the year) I would make my wife sit with me. But I was dumb and impetuous and impatient...and burnt a lot of spice, so very little happened.
I continued to refine my technique alone until success came. If I am going 20mg plus I like to be alone.
On the odd occasion where I research low doses in an investigatory capacity my wife has, on occasion, sat with me to see what all the fuss is about :?
I continued to refine my technique alone until success came. If I am going 20mg plus I like to be alone.
On the odd occasion where I research low doses in an investigatory capacity my wife has, on occasion, sat with me to see what all the fuss is about :?
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I have had two experiences, one with and one without. The first ascension I achieved I had a sitter (I don't believe I would of ascended if not for his loving and caring "get it back in mouth" attitude lol) and I appreciated having someone there for my first. On my second voyage I went solo, anxiety and fear met me quickly as I toked as I thought " can I truly do this on my own" it was a very confronting experience at first. Soon after though I was comforted by the energies around me and everything was again in perpetual harmony. At this point in my experiences I think I prefer a sitter, more so for the comfort and calming energies my sitter provides for me.
Thank you for raising this question, as a newcomer I'm very interested to see people's replies and reasoning.
Thank you for raising this question, as a newcomer I'm very interested to see people's replies and reasoning.
I was thinking about this today, because when I started researching the spice I was reading a lot of posts about how important it was to have someone standing by. In my case that wasn't an option, so I started out with small hits to get a feel for it.
I'm in my 50s, and smoked my first bowl of hash when I was 12. The first time I took acid I was 14 and did it in my room while I was supposed to be doing my homework. Through my teens I did acid, peyote, mescalin, and mushrooms. Loved them all.
I went into the service when I was 20, and pretty much stopped using anything but alcohol after that because the penalties for drug use in the job I was in were more severe than normal.
When I started testing the spice, I had previous experience to relate it to, even though it was years ago. When I was ready to go for the full load, I had a comfortable private place to be, and made sure I had things like water, a cold beer if I wanted it later, and a place to drop the pipe that wouldn't burn down the house.
I think if you have some experience with psychedelics already you're probably good to go as long as you understand how intense it's going to be. If you've only gotten high, and your not the adventurous sort, you might want someone around to keep you tethered.
I'm in my 50s, and smoked my first bowl of hash when I was 12. The first time I took acid I was 14 and did it in my room while I was supposed to be doing my homework. Through my teens I did acid, peyote, mescalin, and mushrooms. Loved them all.
I went into the service when I was 20, and pretty much stopped using anything but alcohol after that because the penalties for drug use in the job I was in were more severe than normal.
When I started testing the spice, I had previous experience to relate it to, even though it was years ago. When I was ready to go for the full load, I had a comfortable private place to be, and made sure I had things like water, a cold beer if I wanted it later, and a place to drop the pipe that wouldn't burn down the house.
I think if you have some experience with psychedelics already you're probably good to go as long as you understand how intense it's going to be. If you've only gotten high, and your not the adventurous sort, you might want someone around to keep you tethered.
Excellent thread.
I have yet to try the spice and am unsure if i should wait until i find someone who can observe me or if i should go it alone. I recently moved country so i know very little people and the people i do know are not aware of DMT (as far as i know) and i think it would make me uncomfortable having them sit in and probably them too. I do have the option of my girlfriend watching me through skype of facetime but that might be more of a distraction than anything else.
I think once i have the spice (soon hopefully) i may do it alone. I have taken my fair share of mushroom, one time i took too much got lost in the jungle (wasnt lost just extremely confused) and started to freak out but some how managed to calm myself down and let the bad part of the trip pass. Due to that experience i feel i am comfortable and can reassure myself if things get out of hand.
Anyway I have some time to think it over, hopefully more people contribute to the thread. I like hearing that people are doing it alone as it is made clear that it's best to have a sitter. Although my biggest fear is that I burn the building down or jump from the balcony but from what I have read if I smoke it correctly i will just lay on the bed.
I have yet to try the spice and am unsure if i should wait until i find someone who can observe me or if i should go it alone. I recently moved country so i know very little people and the people i do know are not aware of DMT (as far as i know) and i think it would make me uncomfortable having them sit in and probably them too. I do have the option of my girlfriend watching me through skype of facetime but that might be more of a distraction than anything else.
I think once i have the spice (soon hopefully) i may do it alone. I have taken my fair share of mushroom, one time i took too much got lost in the jungle (wasnt lost just extremely confused) and started to freak out but some how managed to calm myself down and let the bad part of the trip pass. Due to that experience i feel i am comfortable and can reassure myself if things get out of hand.
Anyway I have some time to think it over, hopefully more people contribute to the thread. I like hearing that people are doing it alone as it is made clear that it's best to have a sitter. Although my biggest fear is that I burn the building down or jump from the balcony but from what I have read if I smoke it correctly i will just lay on the bed.
Ime experience, sitters can definatley detract from the experience, if for nothing else, just them being there lol
However, i think if i had a loving partner that would be a different story.
So i could really see both ways. However, if one has no experience, a sitter could really be helpful and possibly comforting, if you trust them and are aware of a few basics about sitting
However, i think if i had a loving partner that would be a different story.
So i could really see both ways. However, if one has no experience, a sitter could really be helpful and possibly comforting, if you trust them and are aware of a few basics about sitting
I have my deepest and best experiences when there's no one else around. No distractions, just you and "them". If there are entities you need to talk to, you can do so aloud. If you gotta make some loud noise, you can do that too. I've never needed anyone's guidance or presence, and I've never been in a situation where I put myself in physical harm, so no, I don't think a sitter is necessary (at least for me).
First few times I had a sitter, though I asked them to sit round the side out of view. Even then the whole experience is not as personal, one does not get the time to reflect afterwards that one would have when alone as nearly always the usual "what was it like what did you see" questions come into play.
I've done it myself to others on occasion, when I know the best thing is to just let them get back to baseline and have a few moments to ponder before banging into an inquisition hehe..
So, once you find your proverbial feet a sitter (imo) becomes a potential distraction, yet still someone you are glad to have there if needed.
I would perhaps say if going alone have someone you can contact, should you need to, should you come back from a particularly heavy and troublesome journey (or even hit up the chat here, I know that has helped a few people before if the right people are about).
I've done it myself to others on occasion, when I know the best thing is to just let them get back to baseline and have a few moments to ponder before banging into an inquisition hehe..
So, once you find your proverbial feet a sitter (imo) becomes a potential distraction, yet still someone you are glad to have there if needed.
I would perhaps say if going alone have someone you can contact, should you need to, should you come back from a particularly heavy and troublesome journey (or even hit up the chat here, I know that has helped a few people before if the right people are about).
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I do not feel the need to be "sat", however, my partner of 13 years does not bother me with her presence at all. She has been privy to my speaking tongues, projectile vomiting, chanting, singing, writhing, laughing and crying. And never once was she an impediment. Now any other human being on Earth aside from her would not be such a comfort. I have tried spice with another person there and I could not break through.
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The idea of a sitter is sometimes intriguing, but I never have one. Company along for the trip, but not sitters.
There is just some disconnect for me that makes being observed by the unbaptized a weird feeling... always been that way.
There is just some disconnect for me that makes being observed by the unbaptized a weird feeling... always been that way.
This rings true for me. I've always done it alone, and one of the things I love about the spice is how clear my mind feels afterwards. I have a very comfortable, beautiful and private spot, and I'll usually sit quietly for at least 30 minutes afterwards. I can't picture having a conversation with anyone during that time, unless that person had just had the exact same experienced, maybe through some sort of Vulcan mind-meld? Like "Holy shit! Did you SEE that thing?!?"ZenSpice said:
I have acted as a sitter on many occasions and one thing has happened (on three occasions) that has left me pondering..
Three different people from very distinct and different backgrounds have all asked (for whatever reason I don't know) for me to sit in front of them, so they may look at me while coming back from their journey. Each of these three people indicated (in their own way but with a matching theme) that I had lived many lives prior to this one and this was my first life living within a Caucasian culture.
Funny thing is this resonates with me a lot and is a huge part of why I feel a disconnect to the society I am living within during this lifetime.
One of these people would be someone who could have had some self-suggestibility (keyword of the day haha) but for the other two it's not even part of their normal belief structure. They were as surprised to have this "revelation" as I was to receive it.
I wonder if other people have had similar things happen during gifting sessions with those few trusted people who know the deeper meaning of whats on offer to them.
A bit off topic and I apologise.. This tune pretty much mirrors my current perception of the society I am in this time round.
[YOUTUBE]
Yeah, I know... I am working on it
Three different people from very distinct and different backgrounds have all asked (for whatever reason I don't know) for me to sit in front of them, so they may look at me while coming back from their journey. Each of these three people indicated (in their own way but with a matching theme) that I had lived many lives prior to this one and this was my first life living within a Caucasian culture.
Funny thing is this resonates with me a lot and is a huge part of why I feel a disconnect to the society I am living within during this lifetime.
One of these people would be someone who could have had some self-suggestibility (keyword of the day haha) but for the other two it's not even part of their normal belief structure. They were as surprised to have this "revelation" as I was to receive it.
I wonder if other people have had similar things happen during gifting sessions with those few trusted people who know the deeper meaning of whats on offer to them.
A bit off topic and I apologise.. This tune pretty much mirrors my current perception of the society I am in this time round.
[YOUTUBE]
Yeah, I know... I am working on it
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I like to go deep alone so i don't have to worry about doing/vocalizing something weird and freaking them out....but it can be really great to have a fellow traveler with you that you know and love, and the big benefit is the bonding/hilarity/love...not to mention is can feel way way more grounding (if you need that), which can be really nice when coming back.
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I have always journeyed alone. What works for one may not work so well for another, but I am a solo voyager.
That's not to say I will never journey with another person. I am sure to at some point, but it will be with someone with the same respect and understanding as us here at the Nexus.
It's not something I'm planning or something I'm aiming to avoid, the situation just hasn't arisen yet.
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That's not to say I will never journey with another person. I am sure to at some point, but it will be with someone with the same respect and understanding as us here at the Nexus.
It's not something I'm planning or something I'm aiming to avoid, the situation just hasn't arisen yet.
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I'm not experienced enough to give a definitive answer, but I smoked some changa earlier tonight and I'm glad I was alone.
During the experience and the comedown I was talking aloud (uttering random phrases, more like), I threw myself off the couch in quite a violent manner (because I felt lying on the ground was better atm), I was drooling, crying, laughing, growling, chanting, standing up in a rush to perform some random movements; all kinds of things I wouldn't have felt so free to do in the presence of a third party (a physical one that is
) but that I felt were an important part of the energy of the experience.
Also, last time I smoked with a friend (it was his first try, and I was going first) I almost broke through, and then I lost it due to a laughing fit, because the thought of me having to explain to him what had happened just cracked me up so bad..
So, for concentration's sake, I prefer to be alone.
During the experience and the comedown I was talking aloud (uttering random phrases, more like), I threw myself off the couch in quite a violent manner (because I felt lying on the ground was better atm), I was drooling, crying, laughing, growling, chanting, standing up in a rush to perform some random movements; all kinds of things I wouldn't have felt so free to do in the presence of a third party (a physical one that is
) but that I felt were an important part of the energy of the experience.Also, last time I smoked with a friend (it was his first try, and I was going first) I almost broke through, and then I lost it due to a laughing fit, because the thought of me having to explain to him what had happened just cracked me up so bad..
So, for concentration's sake, I prefer to be alone.
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I agree with Pups post above.
Typically always alone when I partake. I've always had deeper journeys when alone (as stated above). For someone that's doing it for their first time i'll typically sit in, in the corner of the room, completely silent, so im not 'in their face', just to be there in case they start to panic (which has happened before). After the person is acclimated so-to-speak, then i'll usually sit outside or in another room.
much love,
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Typically always alone when I partake. I've always had deeper journeys when alone (as stated above). For someone that's doing it for their first time i'll typically sit in, in the corner of the room, completely silent, so im not 'in their face', just to be there in case they start to panic (which has happened before). After the person is acclimated so-to-speak, then i'll usually sit outside or in another room.
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