Smokable herbs and plants

[BubbleCat]

Dear Nexians,

because of the beauty of Changa I decidet I would like to share my list of plants that I have found to be pleaseant to smoke. They are suitable for use in smoking mixes, some can be smoked on their own and they'll probably work great for making your Changa. Attention is necessary, most of the plants do not have any effect of their own, some in the list are at least said to have an effect so a combination wouldnt be smart until experimentation tells any different. Also some might contain MAOIs, again, research comes first when the idea is to combine anything with DMT.

I have never used this method but read about infusion of aroma and flavor here: The Art of Changa, a guide to making the perfect blends. - Changa - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus I like the idea as it will further enhance your smoking experience, so I will try soon. I expect most plants in my list to lend themselves to this technique.

I didnt figure out yet how to sort the list, as of now its roughly alphabetically which serves basically no purpose. I am considering sorting by the criteria "base material" vs "flavor material" and marking them for effects they are said to have, and also MAOIs. English common names could be addet. Also I can imagine a system where the plant parts to be used are specified and where further subspecies are specified, I have decidet to not do that for now, because with most plants, Artemisia, Salvia ... many subspecies are usefull and the list would get very long. So as of now it is a list of genus that are worth looking in on the hunt for smokable plants that will aid you in preparation of your nicotine free smoking mix or changa.

I am also trying to figure out how I can make each genus / plant name represent a link to the corresponding wikipedia page.

Blue english common names indicate a filler herb or plant. Not adding much flavour but neither adding any harsh smoke they ensure you can cheaply and easily make tons of herbal smoking blends

Purple color means the plant is aromatic and will add flavour to your blend when mixed in or having its essential oils infused as described in the linked thread

Red color in the part of the plant that is usable indicates the presence of active compounds and / or MAOIs. Do not use theese plants as a filler.

With only a phone and crappy internet it takes a while to get this completed, please bear with me

Abies fir needels sap
Achillea Yarrow foilage petals
Alchemilla ladys mantle foilage petals
Althea marshmallow roots petals
Angelica Angelica roots foilage green seeds
Artemisia
Betula
Carica
Centaurea
Cichorium
Corylus
Datura Thorny apple foilage petals
Dianthus
Diospyros
Eschscholzia
Eucalyptus
Gaultheria
Humulus
Hypericum
Juglans
Lactuca
Lavandula
Leonotis
Leontodon
Levisticum
Lobelia
Melissa
Mentha
Nasturtium
Nepeta
Nymphaea Lotus Blue Lotus petals
Passiflora
Perovskia
Piliostigma
Prunella
Prunus
Ptychopetalum
Pulmonaria
Quercus
Rosa Rose petals
Rubus Blackberry Raspberry Cloudberry foilage juice petals
Salvia
Sambucus
Scutellaria
Senecio
Stachys
Taraxacum
Tanacetum
Tilia
Trifolium
Turnera
Tussilago
Thymus
Verbascum
Vitis
Ulmus
Urtica
Valeriana
Viburnum
Yerba


Experiment and enjoy your homemade herbal smoking and incense blends

 

[Continuum]

Hiya BC !

Have you tried enhancing your own caapi leaf yet, like the 10x enhanced leaf in the link you posted? :thumb_up:

Peace,
Your sleepy amphibious friend from the plant place

 

[BubbleCat]

Hi Continuum

No, sadly I dont have, I have never prepared any Changa but believe I do understand the principle. That is the reason why I want that warning stick out red, I know one can smoke all plants listed, and it will taste pleasant or at least interesting. What I domt know: will everything go with DMT trouble free. I dont want anyone to underestimate the danger from unknown combinations. I am very keen on this growing seasom tho, I have most of the plants growing here and have sources for the plants listed I dont have around, so I'll probably be able to comfirm if anything here shows any unwanted side effect soon I never smoked a Caapi leaf so I didnt include it in the list, while being aware it works

I am happy I found out how the links work, will they work in conjunction with color ? Do the mobile links cause any trouble ?

Peace

 

[Cognitive Heart]

Smoking birch tree, walnut trees, grape, and eucalyptus? Also, yerba mate contains caffeine.. the title of this thread does not correlate to any of these being pleasant to smoke. Am I wrong? I suppose small amounts are manageable.

What are these experiences like for you? How are they pleasant?

 

[BubbleCat]

Yes they are. Walnut, birch and wine leaves and also birch "flowers" make a nice close to neutral "base material" for a herbal smoking blend. Birch will remind you of the taste of birch sap and derived products. They arent very scratchy, especially once fermented. Eucalyptus on its own wouldnt be too pleasant but it adds good flavour to your base material when mixed in. Yes Yerba contains caffeine and depending on its form its some of it might end up in your body. Basically not much different from drinking coffe or tea - if that happens at all.
I have smoked all the mentioned plants in my herbal smoking mixes and I found them pleasant. Of course taste varies much. If you assume I dont know what I am doing, maybe you would still think different of the commercial suppliers of herbal smoking blends, like honeyrose ... who basically charge you heaps of money for the very same stuff. Basically many of the "ideas" here do come from commercial smoking blends.

Googling the whole matter will bring up way more plants that are used for smoking, but as I said in the OP I wrote down those that I've made good personal experience with over the years, in order to avoid something like "...you can not smoke that" I dont just coppy ingredients from commercial products, product lists from onlime store or the list on wikipedia saying "plants used for smoking".

 

[Continuum]

Your hyperlinks are working fine. Don't think you can change the color, though.

It definitely makes sense to test your blends before adding any DMT. Besides the obvious safety reasons, if they are too harsh to hold in or unsmokable for some other reason, you don't waste the goods.

And I cannot fathom infusing DMT on salvia. Of course I'm a huge wimp, so that goes without saying. :lol:

I like doing the 10x caapi leaf enhancement, only reducing it down onto verbascum when you add the fresh gram of leaf. A little dagga flower and blue water lily flower go nicely with that, just as is ime.

When I enhance it further with the molecule, I consider the weight of the nymphaea and leonotis in my leaf: DMT ratio, but add it after the DMT is infused so it still adds some nice color to the blend. So if the final changa will be a 1:1 with one gram leaf and one gram DMT and there will be say 0.10 grams of lily and dagga, I infuse the spice on 0.90 grams of the caapi enhanced mullein and add the others after it's ready to go.

 

[BubbleCat]

I would never dare to use "the Salvia" you probably have on your mind with DMT. Thats what I was talking about, mixing active components is subject to bery careful experimentation, so far we can say: Yerba Mate and Salvia Dicinorum might interact with DMT in unwanted ways.
When I wrote "Salvia" though I was more like thinking of about 10 other species in the Salvia genus containing hundrets of species, I liked Officinalis, Apiana, Hispanica and Sclarea much.

When I say "pleasent" or "like" I mean smokable, smooth, nice taste. Nothing like "active" Everyone is responsible themselves for adding the activity

Thanks for sharing your recipie I will put some things into the Soxhlet and get extracting amd infusing soon I think the whole infusion route is so awesome because of the ability to even use lots of the flavor of the scratchy smokes (like Lavendula ) and infuse it in the smooth stuff like Verbascum... or birch walnut and hazel You might want to try fermentation one day, things get even smoother when proteins and chlorophyll are broken down.

 

[MaNoMaNoM]

(Now i see you already added as 'Rubus',
but i thought it was raspberry untill i looked up pictures.)
This plant is everywhere in my location.. Completely invading any unattended area.

Great base herb, it makes a fine, very smooth, smoke.
OPTIONAL
The new leaves are especially good because they are not full of chlorophyll, a neet trick is;
to pick most leaves from a vine, and a few days later, (rain helps)
the vine will have all new leaves.

 

[BubbleCat]

To me that looks like Rubus sectio Rubus, altho the "hair" on it and the leaf shape irritate me (well... close enough, sectio Rubus contains thousands of species), highly invasive in some areas, I have the same problem in my place But if you uproot them on a regular basis you can keep them at bay. They quickly overcrowd and kill everything else, but I like that much, it forms intimidating hedges that benefit wildlife and biodiversity.

Raspberry is a Rubus too, in a pipe they'll smoke nearly the same, I think raspberry is less harsh than Rubus sectio Rubus, try yourself

Rubus Chamaemorus was good too

So here you have the reason, why I didnt specify species, only genus: In most of those cases most members of a genus work, no matter if its Salvia Officinalis or Salvia Apiana, Rubus sectio Rubus or Rubus Idaeus, Betula Pendula or Betula Szaferi.
all tasty

 

[Just Say Know]

Bubblecat you're so helpful for us smoke lovers!

 

[BubbleCat]

Thank you, then a guide on fermentation shall follow ?
I think I have came up with a solution to get everything ordered. I could put a english common name behind each genus, and mark it in either color, depending if its more like a base material, or flavouring Then i thing I need a third "column" to specify the part of the plant that I would use. In most cases its the petals, if its not the petals it might be the foilage, or the roots, and in very rare cases wood, seeds or fruits.

 

[Continuum]

Sounds quite helpful as a reference!

And hey- no more seedling by your name! You are now free to move about the cabin.

 

[BubbleCat]

Why not get this thread rolling ?

I am willing to add everything to the list that other members report they had a pleasurable first hand experience smoking. It must be a plant, it should not be a "real deal" psychoactive of its own (we all know MJ can be smoked dont we ? ) the experience must be first hand the plant shouldnt be sceduled almost everywhere and it would be nice if the information could already be postet in the format of the OP (Genus & wiki link, common name and plant part with accordingly colors)

Feel free to contribute if you want.

BTW: does someone of the experienced seedians know if "disclaimers" like "smoking is never healthy, regardless nicotine presence. Also adding plant matter can be expected to be less healthy than vaping pure DMT." and "A plant not being marked red is no guarantee there can be no MAOIs and no active or poisonous component found in it"

 

[DeltaSpice]

I would never dare to use "the Salvia" .

I have some Salvia Changa made with rue Harmalas. I have found that it gives a darker experience, I mean that literally, the visions are darker and richer . I will never forget what I saw after a few hits on that.
I am saving the probably half a gram I have left of it, its definitely strong.


Few are magical , most are crap for lack of a better word. Bear in mind though this is my experience , others may disagree .