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Smoked DMT, no effect.

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swim vapourized it using a glass peice, and tasted the dmt today for the first time but still no effect. took a good dosage too. any ideas?
 
Your name is a great pun, considering your first post. ;)

What size was the dose? What sort of glass piece were you using and how were you using it? As a1pha added, how did you come by the DMT and are you sure it WAS DMT? (did you extract it yourself?).

I doubt you've got some sort of rare genetic immunity to DMT, so I'd venture it was either your technique or the dosage that was off. I know my first attempt was a complete failure, and it was definitely bad technique on my behalf. I'm likely to be of very little assistance, as I'm new here as well, but I can assume the community at large is going to need the above information before they can begin pointing you in the right direction.
 
a1pha said:
Maybe not DMT? What method did you use to extract?

BTW, Welcome to the DMT-Nexus!
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swim used Noman's guide, Added lye, and got dmt crystals after extracting the naptha and freezing it for 24 hours.

then smoked it and tasted the said " synthetic " taste. swim used a glass peice for toking, nohting special and held the lighter an inch away and watched the dmt vaporize and held it in for as long as he could. nothing happened still. thank you, i've been reading about dmt for a while and i finally got into making it.
 
HighSpeedDirt said:
Your name is a great pun, considering your first post. ;)

What size was the dose? What sort of glass piece were you using and how were you using it? As a1pha added, how did you come by the DMT and are you sure it WAS DMT? (did you extract it yourself?).

I doubt you've got some sort of rare genetic immunity to DMT, so I'd venture it was either your technique or the dosage that was off. I know my first attempt was a complete failure, and it was definitely bad technique on my behalf. I'm likely to be of very little assistance, as I'm new here as well, but I can assume the community at large is going to need the above information before they can begin pointing you in the right direction.
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eyeballed the dose, after the first hit felt nothing, decided to use 100 mg and nothing happened still. felt a little light headed and euphoric, but that's it.
 
are you taking any ssri's or other types of anti depressants/head meds? i have heard and seen people on these types of medications have little to no effects from dmt. i dont fully understand why this is but like i said i saw it first hand and thats the only thing i could suppose why.

otherwise its very peculiar that you would feel nothing. even if you were improperly smoking the dmt you should feel something if you exhaled a cloud of vapor. thats very odd that you felt nothing.
 
I believe the problem is with your pipe. Try Vaporgenie or glass vaporgenie and with proper mesh screen, I don't think you will be in the same situation.
 
What are your intentions going into the experience? Are you hasty and impulsive, or laid back and relaxed? Basically, what are you focusing on? In my lengthy experience with DMT, the only time effects were not experienced, was when "they" (hyperspace/entities/Self/Oversoul/whatevs) won't allow entry...sometimes it depends on attitude, mood, or in some cases, a matter of respect. Tho I don't know how you go about your journeying, so all this is speculative at best. In my experience, the "no-effect" experience is a nice way of them saying no, not at this time...you can keep trying, but when I kept on probing their patience, they gave me a hyperspace asskicking I will never forget. DMT literally beat my etheral ass...like, literally...

it was awful, but I took a break, aout 1-2 months, did a SHIT-ton of spiritual/shaman/plant reading and research, discovered harmalas, discovered San Pedro cactus, re-discovered Mushroom growing, and have since returned to the DMT experience with an arsenal of spiritual armor and tools, Harmalas (rue mainly) being a main plant ally of mine. The experiences could never be more full and well-rounded as they are at this time....I realize that before, I was using DMT "blindly", so to speak, without any discipline, and I was retaining practically nothing but wild speculations from the flash that is dmt freebase alone...Now, with harmalas of all sorts, the experience is where it is meant to be. Or perhaps your vaping method is off, I'm not too sure.
 
I would more like concentrate on the smoking method first. If one uses some normal glass pipe for delivery, it's no surprise if it won't work. Even GVG with wrong screen won't work. So get that right, then think if there is anyone "blocking your way", I personally think that is not the case for beginners.
 
tobecomeone00 said:
In my lengthy experience with DMT, the only time effects were not experienced, was when "they" (hyperspace/entities/Self/Oversoul/whatevs) won't allow entry...sometimes it depends on attitude, mood, or in some cases, a matter of respect.
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In my experience with DMT - there is no 'they' blocking entry - only you. People are often drawn to some grand idea of hyperspace with with beings controlling the experience. If I were you, I'd focus on smoking technique and maybe work on your extraction methods to ensure a pure product.
 
a1pha said:
tobecomeone00 said:
In my lengthy experience with DMT, the only time effects were not experienced, was when "they" (hyperspace/entities/Self/Oversoul/whatevs) won't allow entry...sometimes it depends on attitude, mood, or in some cases, a matter of respect.
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In my experience with DMT - there is no 'they' blocking entry - only you. People are often drawn to some grand idea of hyperspace with with beings controlling the experience. If I were you, I'd focus on smoking technique and maybe work on your extraction methods to ensure a pure product.
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My thoughts exactly, its easy to forget that DMT is a psychedelic drug, set and setting matters, but with DMT especially smoking technique is important
 
you've not done the extraction right , swims first extraction also gave results like this , when smoked there was taste and the smell but no effect , extract again this time be more careful ,
 
Jin said:
you've not done the extraction right , swims first extraction also gave results like this , when smoked there was taste and the smell but no effect , extract again this time be more careful ,
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I think it hasty to presume his extraction failed with such limited imformation. If he is using Nomans and got a crystal freeze precipitation Id be curious to know what it is if not DMT. Do you have any of your product remaining Psychnaught?
 
tele said:
I would more like concentrate on the smoking method first. If one uses some normal glass pipe for delivery, it's no surprise if it won't work. Even GVG with wrong screen won't work. So get that right, then think if there is anyone "blocking your way", I personally think that is not the case for beginners.
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sorry tele i disagree with most of your post here. for one i used a glass meth style pipe for over a hundred journey's and had many breakthroughs and amazing experiences. its a lot trickier but its not by any means impossible. i dont recommend this type of vaping method but if you exhale a cloud of vapor/smoke you should feel something. that's why i wondered about the head medications.
plus im not sure what you mean by using the wrong screen and the gvg not working. maybe you mean mot enough screens but even then if you exhale something you got dmt into your system. you just may be wasting a ton of it due to melting.

i will say this i have vaped 25g-30mg using a method i had consistent results and felt just about nothing a few times. its super rare and i feel i was starting to abuse dmt. my intentions were for shit and this seemed to matter. i dont know how this is physically possible but it has happened to me. its def a strange thing.
 
I agree with olympus, if you got vapor you should have felt it.
I can see why SSRI would prevent DMT from working because they don't allow serotonin to be released from the synapses and DMT replaces serotonin in those synapses.
If they were holding tight to the serotonin no DMT could enter.
 
HighSpeedDirt said:
Jin said:
you've not done the extraction right , swims first extraction also gave results like this , when smoked there was taste and the smell but no effect , extract again this time be more careful ,
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I think it hasty to presume his extraction failed with such limited imformation. If he is using Nomans and got a crystal freeze precipitation Id be curious to know what it is if not DMT. Do you have any of your product remaining Psychnaught?
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I'm sure swims extraction method did not fail, because swims friend killed the bowl for swim after and he felt it.
 
olympus mon said:
are you taking any ssri's or other types of anti depressants/head meds? i have heard and seen people on these types of medications have little to no effects from dmt. i dont fully understand why this is but like i said i saw it first hand and thats the only thing i could suppose why.

otherwise its very peculiar that you would feel nothing. even if you were improperly smoking the dmt you should feel something if you exhaled a cloud of vapor. thats very odd that you felt nothing.
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Not taking any meds, unless cannabis counts as one. i'm sure it was the smoking method then.
 
olympus mon said:
tele said:
I would more like concentrate on the smoking method first. If one uses some normal glass pipe for delivery, it's no surprise if it won't work. Even GVG with wrong screen won't work. So get that right, then think if there is anyone "blocking your way", I personally think that is not the case for beginners.
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sorry tele i disagree with most of your post here. for one i used a glass meth style pipe for over a hundred journey's and had many breakthroughs and amazing experiences. its a lot trickier but its not by any means impossible. i dont recommend this type of vaping method but if you exhale a cloud of vapor/smoke you should feel something. that's why i wondered about the head medications.
plus im not sure what you mean by using the wrong screen and the gvg not working. maybe you mean mot enough screens but even then if you exhale something you got dmt into your system. you just may be wasting a ton of it due to melting.

i will say this i have vaped 25g-30mg using a method i had consistent results and felt just about nothing a few times. its super rare and i feel i was starting to abuse dmt. my intentions were for shit and this seemed to matter. i dont know how this is physically possible but it has happened to me. its def a strange thing.
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I just feel if one is beginner with DMT and using glass pipe, it would not be surprising if it would be the cause of it not working.
About the screen with GVG, with wrong one it will melt thru.
If one wants to use DMT just to get high, it's true it probably won't work or will cause a difficult journey, that's possible yes.
 
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