Smoked harmalas, snort DMT?

[osax]

Hi all,

After searching this topic several times, I'm still short for a definitive answer.

Are you able to SMOKE syrian rue(harmalas) & SNORT DMT-Furmerate to obtain desired effects?

I am interested in this combination specifically for the purpose of improving my understanding and am not asking what is the best/easiest way to take DMT.

If this combination is not possible, please could you elaborate why.

 

[Ulim]

Snorting dmt is extremly painfull and unnecessary if you smoke harmalas.
Just smoke the dmt with it in changa or eat the dmt.

 

[osax]

Still not quite what I'm looking for, do you have any other information or opinions about why or why not it would work?

 

[Ulim]

it would be exactly the same as eating
only snorting hurts so much it increases chance of bad trips

 

[osax]

Would it? ...from my understanding the harmalas is not going to the stomach & as such won't disable the enzymes from breaking down the DMT.

 

[soulfood]

My favourite way is to eat a hefty dose of harmalas, around 150mg, then smoke the DMT.

IME you have to put way too much DMT in your nose to make it a viable route. Yes you do get a slower onset and longer duration, but you get that when DMT is used in combination with harmalas anyways.

If you must insufflate DMT then I strongly advise converting to DMT fumarate as the freebase is so abrasive, but be warned it still is very dose heavy. I had to use between 150-200 mg which is pretty much more than 10x what I would smoke.

 

[osax]

Thank you, I'm aware of the increased dosage requirement & was specifically asking about DMT fumerate.

I've read some threads stating that harmalas isn't even required with DMT fumerate but in my experience this is not the case.

My best guess at this stage is as follows:

Smoking harmalas & snorting DMT fumerate will create an effect similar to changa in duration (+-15mins) & effect (slower onset), but will nowhere be like taking it orally in duration or effect.