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Snort DMT?
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Touche Guevara
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It will burn like hell and be fairly ineffective if you try to snort freebase. Even when converted to fumarate, people seem to say that it's really inefficient (wasted spice).
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I think I must be a weird mutant in this regard.
I had an incredible experience snorting mimosa extracted freebase once...VERY powerful (think it was 100mg, can't remember for sure though), and lasts much longer than smoking, but at the dosage I did was still intense, but allowed a few seconds more to adjust into the experience compared to smoking. There was nothing 'subtle' about it or anything like that, about 30 seconds after snorting my nervous system started to feel like pure lightning was surging through it, and the fear almost grabbed me, and interestingly I very nearly purged. However after this initial shock, I did lots of throat singing, which produced absolutely spectacular and beautiful effects, and allowed me to navigate that weird space very effectively.
However, with the pain, and nastyness to my mucus membranes, I wouldn't try this again! Its a shame about the physical issues regarding snorting, as personally I found it very interesting.
I had an incredible experience snorting mimosa extracted freebase once...VERY powerful (think it was 100mg, can't remember for sure though), and lasts much longer than smoking, but at the dosage I did was still intense, but allowed a few seconds more to adjust into the experience compared to smoking. There was nothing 'subtle' about it or anything like that, about 30 seconds after snorting my nervous system started to feel like pure lightning was surging through it, and the fear almost grabbed me, and interestingly I very nearly purged. However after this initial shock, I did lots of throat singing, which produced absolutely spectacular and beautiful effects, and allowed me to navigate that weird space very effectively.
However, with the pain, and nastyness to my mucus membranes, I wouldn't try this again! Its a shame about the physical issues regarding snorting, as personally I found it very interesting.
So painful. Worm expected blood rather than all that snot when finally looked. Thought broke my head in that dream. Felt like hot spike in face/nose/eye afterwards. Nothing good here. Just smoke or eat with an MAOI when you dream of spice and itll be good.
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150mg jungle fumerate was pretty damn good for me. Although no way near as efficent as smoking in terms of product used, it's a very effective method for having a longer experience without the addition of a harmala colouring the trip. It's a very pure DMT trip, but without the rapid onset.
It did burn pretty crazy, but it didn't ruin the experience much for myself, but a friend who I tested the same dose delivered in such a way was constantly aware of the irritation so... horses for courses I guess.
It did burn pretty crazy, but it didn't ruin the experience much for myself, but a friend who I tested the same dose delivered in such a way was constantly aware of the irritation so... horses for courses I guess.
Long time reader, first time poster. Just wanted to put the experiences of SWIM with snorting dmt-fumarate out there is cyberspace considering so many people discourage people from trying this method due to its "burn" or "wastefulness".
SWIM has been brewing dmt freebase for about 3-4 years now and has only smoked the FB (around 75 times to date since the first batch). Recently a friend of SWIM decided to snort freebase and was wholly overpowered by the burn (duh! a base with the pH of around 9 can't be too good for the mucus membranes). This prompted SWIM to research other methods of use which led to FASA conversion of dmt to a fumarate salt. SWIM tested this out and now believes snorting dmt-fumarate is far better of an experience than smoking it, and has given him the gumption to go ahead with trying a oral pharmahuasca trip soon. SWIM snorts about 100-150mg of dmt-fumarate at a time (200 if he is feeling ballsy), on a 100-150mg dose you are getting 75-110mg of dmt with a trip duration of 1 hour. This means DMT-fumarate is not a waste of DMT. Typically a smoked, 35mg dose last swim around 15-20min, times this by three and you get the dose size and duration of snorted dmt without having to redose.
Timeline of SWIM's experience:
T(0.0) - Snorted 100-150mg
T(1min) - Mild to moderate burn
T(2-3 min) - Mucus released in sinus
T(3-4 min) - Burns subsides as mucus fills sinus and dissolves the salts
T(4-10min) - Trying to hold the mucus in as long as possible
T(10-15min) - Can't hold the mucus in, must snort and swallow which is bitter and gives a sore throat feeling (drink something and it gets better) or blow your nose.
T(15-75+min) - Trip city
SWIM finds the snorted dmt-fumarate experience to be much more of a gradual come-up and come-down, much more mellow, and much easier integrate. He also finds the experience much more like a heavy shroom trip in intensity (rather than being indescribably intense). SWIM finds smoking it to be such an intense and fast experience that it takes him weeks, sometimes months, to process one experience and reach enough understanding to take another trip; however, with dmt-fumuarate SWIM feels that the ride downhill after the peak gives enough time to process the occurrences of the peak. After making the first batch of salt and doing some preliminary testing SWIM went on to use the salt as much as 3-4 times a day for more than a week. He said he had no sinus problems after this time and actually felt that his sinuses felt better than ever (for some reason his allergies to pollen in the air cause less of a reaction after extended use).
SWIM can't imagine smoking a base is better for your system than snorting a salt.
Fumaric acid esters does produce gastrointestinal side effects in about 60% of people (nausea, constipation, or diarrhea), luckily dmt-fumarate is not a ester, the fumarate part should only cause issues if there is a predisposed chemical sensitivity (in which case this is not the method for some). Fumaric acid is classified as a irritant (hence the sore throat and mild burn when snorted but SWIM feels DMT freebase is much more of an irritant to the respiratory system than the salt is to the sinuses).
Snorting DMT Fumarate is SWIM's preferred method of use due to there being no need for an MAOI, its portability, and ease of use. SWIM had also been reluctant to dose orally with an MAOI expecting the experience to be 3-4hours of a smoked trip intensity, if orally dosing is more like the trip intensity produced when snorting than it should be much easier to tolerate that long of a trip.
SWIM hopes this changes a few minds. Everyone's tolerance to powder in the nose differs and you may have too little tolerance to handle the mild irritation, much like some feel smoking FB is too irritating to the lungs. SWIM says the burn is not bad at all and he has snorted many things with a greater burn. Hell, the only reason coke doesn't burn is because it numbs quickly but you can feel the damage the next day, not so with dmt-fumarate!
SWIM has been brewing dmt freebase for about 3-4 years now and has only smoked the FB (around 75 times to date since the first batch). Recently a friend of SWIM decided to snort freebase and was wholly overpowered by the burn (duh! a base with the pH of around 9 can't be too good for the mucus membranes). This prompted SWIM to research other methods of use which led to FASA conversion of dmt to a fumarate salt. SWIM tested this out and now believes snorting dmt-fumarate is far better of an experience than smoking it, and has given him the gumption to go ahead with trying a oral pharmahuasca trip soon. SWIM snorts about 100-150mg of dmt-fumarate at a time (200 if he is feeling ballsy), on a 100-150mg dose you are getting 75-110mg of dmt with a trip duration of 1 hour. This means DMT-fumarate is not a waste of DMT. Typically a smoked, 35mg dose last swim around 15-20min, times this by three and you get the dose size and duration of snorted dmt without having to redose.
Timeline of SWIM's experience:
T(0.0) - Snorted 100-150mg
T(1min) - Mild to moderate burn
T(2-3 min) - Mucus released in sinus
T(3-4 min) - Burns subsides as mucus fills sinus and dissolves the salts
T(4-10min) - Trying to hold the mucus in as long as possible
T(10-15min) - Can't hold the mucus in, must snort and swallow which is bitter and gives a sore throat feeling (drink something and it gets better) or blow your nose.
T(15-75+min) - Trip city
SWIM finds the snorted dmt-fumarate experience to be much more of a gradual come-up and come-down, much more mellow, and much easier integrate. He also finds the experience much more like a heavy shroom trip in intensity (rather than being indescribably intense). SWIM finds smoking it to be such an intense and fast experience that it takes him weeks, sometimes months, to process one experience and reach enough understanding to take another trip; however, with dmt-fumuarate SWIM feels that the ride downhill after the peak gives enough time to process the occurrences of the peak. After making the first batch of salt and doing some preliminary testing SWIM went on to use the salt as much as 3-4 times a day for more than a week. He said he had no sinus problems after this time and actually felt that his sinuses felt better than ever (for some reason his allergies to pollen in the air cause less of a reaction after extended use).
SWIM can't imagine smoking a base is better for your system than snorting a salt.
Fumaric acid esters does produce gastrointestinal side effects in about 60% of people (nausea, constipation, or diarrhea), luckily dmt-fumarate is not a ester, the fumarate part should only cause issues if there is a predisposed chemical sensitivity (in which case this is not the method for some). Fumaric acid is classified as a irritant (hence the sore throat and mild burn when snorted but SWIM feels DMT freebase is much more of an irritant to the respiratory system than the salt is to the sinuses).
Snorting DMT Fumarate is SWIM's preferred method of use due to there being no need for an MAOI, its portability, and ease of use. SWIM had also been reluctant to dose orally with an MAOI expecting the experience to be 3-4hours of a smoked trip intensity, if orally dosing is more like the trip intensity produced when snorting than it should be much easier to tolerate that long of a trip.
SWIM hopes this changes a few minds. Everyone's tolerance to powder in the nose differs and you may have too little tolerance to handle the mild irritation, much like some feel smoking FB is too irritating to the lungs. SWIM says the burn is not bad at all and he has snorted many things with a greater burn. Hell, the only reason coke doesn't burn is because it numbs quickly but you can feel the damage the next day, not so with dmt-fumarate!
hyperspacing
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Sounds painful swim will stick with his changa 
Elf Machine
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I've never snorted DMT but I'd like to try. To convert my freebase I'll disolve it in a little IPA and add acid to ~pH 7, then evap to be left with salt. Is this method sound and what acid would work best for this application?
Elf Machine
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vibrancy3 said:
Was this painful displeasure from the freebase or salt?
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It has base in the name for a reason....
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Just the taste of the freebase is enough to say "DONT SNORT ME!" Salting it without excess fumaric acid and then full dissolving it in a small amount of water may be worth trying as a nasal spray, but I am not so sure about that. The base screams of feeling like you have had a spike driven through the center of your face in my opinion just based on the taste of it. My eyes are watering thinking about it.
nn-DreemMasterTree
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swim snorted 0.2g after having eaten 3g of rue seed 20 min before, and recons it was amazing and beautiful, different to both smoked and oral. Crush up the dmt in some glucose to avoid some nose burning!
How about snorting Harmala HCL salts? SWIM snorted about 50mg of the stuff and reported only a very comfortable burn. she began to feel the anti-depressing effects after 2 minutes, SWIM reported the only nasty thing about snorting harmala hcl as the bitter taste in the throat as the harmala saturated mucus reaches the throat from nasal passages due to gravity. but chewing an eukalyptus Orbit gum solved the problem nicely.
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