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So what's the status of MHRB powder in Canada?

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Fangor

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I read a few stories of people having their powdered MHRB seized at the border. As far as I can tell MHRB itself is legal as long as it isn't sold for consumption, but powder is very questionable. According to the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act:
Interpretation

(2) For the purposes of this Act,

(a) a reference to a controlled substance includes a reference to any substance that contains a controlled substance; and

(b) a reference to a controlled substance includes a reference to

(i) all synthetic and natural forms of the substance, and

(ii) any thing that contains or has on it a controlled substance and that is used or intended or designed for use

(A) in producing the substance, or

(B) in introducing the substance into a human body.
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Plants aren't considered a substance, nor are they considered a "natural form of the substance" I guess which is why the bark is legal. But powdered bark could violate (A). It is certainly a thing that contains a controlled substance, and it's easy to argue that by being powdered it is used or designed for use in producing DMT. It's being sold with the first step in the extraction process already completed.

Anyone here live in Canada and order some recently?

Also now that I think about it... is blood not a substance? That contains a controlled substance(DMT)?
 
I have only ever ordered mine within Canada, out of fear of those customs bastards and their interpretation of the law. If you're that concerned, just order it whole instead of powdered.

Fangor said:
Also now that I think about it... is blood not a substance? That contains a controlled substance(DMT)?
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I had a good laugh at this one :lol:
 
I noticed that my favorite mimosa vendor that goes through adenium now seems to carry chipped bark pieces instead of powdered..which is fine with me. I dunno if I will order powdered again if I can just get chipped of whole bark piecces. With the proper grinder it is so easy to powder anyway and less hassel to worry about with customs. I would order within canada but the price is just such a rip off I cant justify it because it probly all comes from the same source. Some people make a ton of money off mimosa I think.

Grow it. Grow it now. It is not that hard, I thought it would be much more difficult to grow but mine are all doing ok in a window cill with one light.
 
I have made a few calls and ya, powdered is a problem. Not illegal, but it is being seized because it has "been processed for human consumption."

Just another great excuse for a customs official to go on a power trip. In bark form it should not be a problem... yet...
 
I had already placed an order for powder from the man in Brazil. I emailed him and he said it was no problem, it will arrive, so I'm not worried.

Edit: Yeah I know what you mean, some asshole gets to feel better about himself and go on a power trip because he "helped fight the war on drugs and is making a difference in the world!!!"
 
It's also used for making dyes, I'm guessing it would be easiest to make dyes out of it when it's powdered? That's a use for powdered MHRB

There's teks that use shredded and whole, chopped, pieces, why would they do this when it's possible to blend it yourself?
 
Why would you get angry with a border guard, they're just following rules. Someone way up the chain said they have to draw the line with some things, it's not like they can pick and choose.
 
mt666tm said:
I have made a few calls and ya, powdered is a problem. Not illegal, but it is being seized because it has "been processed for human consumption."

Just another great excuse for a customs official to go on a power trip. In bark form it should not be a problem... yet...
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please stop calling customs, seriously guys. This is not ephedra you are importing.
 
Fangor said:
I had already placed an order for powder from the man in Brazil. I emailed him and he said it was no problem, it will arrive, so I'm not worried.

Edit: Yeah I know what you mean, some asshole gets to feel better about himself and go on a power trip because he "helped fight the war on drugs and is making a difference in the world!!!"
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Yea you should have no problem it just sucks on the 20 day wait but people are still posting 100% positive feedback so i believe you will get it, me on the other hand dont mind paying a littel extra and get it from in the states and in 2 days nor 20
 
Is 20 days standard for an inspected item at canada customs? I have an item that has been held 18 days so far and i's sweating a bit.
 
okay so I recieved 2 kilos of powdered rootbark from celestial today. They did not have shredded when I ordered so I just ordered the powder and crossed my fingers. It came quick enough, and the package was even opened by customs and was approved. So I am not really sure what all these problems are that others are having, if anything I think it is an east coast thing becasue I have never had a problem and customs seems to check my orders all the time and approve it. Maybe you guys are just going through sketchy vendors that make it more obvious?
 
Apparently adenium doesn't ship to Canada anymore...or so it says on the site:

"We will not ship any more to AU, UK, Scandinavia nor to Canada."
 
yeah..CS bark is from adenium though and is cheap enough..I dont know why adenium stopped shipping here..there cant be that big of a deal surrounding mimosa here since my package was opened by customs and they allowed it, and it was even powdered. Maybe the people who had problems on the east coast complained etc and adenium just decided to not ship here for now..
 
in NL they sell mimosa powder as a natural colorant. then it wouldn't necessarily have to mean that it's powdered form is used to make DMT.
 
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