So why is it still yellow?

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Okay so a great deal of research and work some brownish sludge is the result (Xylene pulls for everything). A wash (as in running Naptha over the lump) allows the goo to turn to a crayon lighter color consistency and a single "drop" of pure white ((dealing with small quantities while practicing --only the first pull results)) --

The remaining brown crayon is dissolved in 5ml heated Naptha for a supersaturated solvent and a puddle of brown goo at the bottom of a shot glass. Poured off MOST of the Naptha into another shot glass which was covered and promptly put in a refrigerator.

The brown goo and very small amount of remaining Naptha poured onto an evaporation tray which was tilted to seperate the brown from the clear. In other words there was an effort made to ensure separation of the two mixes.

After several hours the shot glass in the fridge was moved to the freezer and left for a day or so. The shot glass freeze precipitated a little over 100 mg of YELLOW crystal.

The small amount from the bottom of the brown sludge mix produced an as yet unmeasured (approx. 100 mg by sight) LIGHTER colored though still YELLOW tinged less perfectly crystalline material, and of course the brown clay -though seeming a bit lighter in color and of BETTER consistency- is still brown clay.

Bearing in mind the naptha used was from the first pull and did contain a share of already present perfection the question at hand is why the freeze precipitated results are still obviously infused with the n-Oxide, jungle, K or whatever the present theory of alternate alkaloid is?

I thought the purpose of Naptha freeze precip was to isolate pure white and bright experience?

Don't think I'm being ungrateful....the result is VERY potent....but it is noted as being a "darker" experience...5 mg was administered to spouse after a scary 15 mg self administration. I wanted her the luxury I was not afforded, a taste without a complete immersion.

She agreed the experience was very dark....ceiling fans were spiders and just a "feel" (same room to those familiar with my posting of first experience LoL...Ceiling fans seem to be prevalent)

Now we are both fans of darker experiences, and experienced "psychonauts" for lack of a better term....We've done a great deal of LSD together in the past...I've done more mushrooms, Molly and such sisters, as well as a few nasties I won't even mention as they don't deserve the credit (I don't suffer from motion sickness anymore lets say that) than she has, but we are both well seasoned in alternate realms of thought. That being said, I wanted the purest whitest light to compare to the deepest darkest voids.

Call me a puss but I wanted to start at the light end LoL.

At this point I'm not sure I mind what "they" gave me to start with but it was darker and scarier than some reports read thus far, and I plan on venturing further, as does my spouse. She was actually a little disappointed with her low dose....better than scaring her off though.

The question still remains...why is it still so yellow....will "cold" Naptha purify like what I am seeking?

And also....what can I expect from the "brown"?...the lighter yellow "clump" I think will be very similar to the freeze precip if not maybe a bit "lighter" but the brown has me thinking scary as hell....not that it's such a "bad" thing.

We learned on LSD that "bad" trips were more intense and would actually strive for them. Eating pizza while watching German gore films is a sure fire way to see the extent of the minds influences on perceived reality. Plus the exhilaration of primal fear really reminds you of what it means to be alive.

Still....there are places that even the irrevocably insane will not go.

As a side note....considerations of the lack of harshness to our smoke....

.....Though it was a pain staking process to say the least, Sodium Carbonate was used as a base and Distilled Vinegar as an acid...No lye, no muriatic acid....Naptha and Xylene was used for pulls still, so not a "food grade" extraction BUT....I think it IS worth noting that the use of Sodium Carbonate made for a less abrasive end result. There were a couple times that I was sure I had wrecked my extraction however so it is more of a pain in the ass....fortunately MHRB is a forgiving material it seems.

I'm not sure I will extract the same way again but living in a country with Draconian anti drug laws and a populace full of inbred Meth cooks means it's better to work with whats readily available. I'd already had to order enough "weird" supplies to my house...something flagged as the tweakers golden beacon seemed unwise and unwelcome....Will likely try a DryTek pickling lime method next...any better suggestions?

 

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Fan of the straight-forward, old school A/B. Seems less messy than STB, though wouldn't know for sure as never gone down that route - happy with the results of this tek, and if it ain't broke etc ...

Vinegar cook, basify with caustic soda, pull with Naphta, freeze precip. All normal household ingredients. Simple, clean process. After the vinegar cook, the vegetable matter is discarded, so it's much easier to work with.

 

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I've just had problem locating sources of Caustic Soda short of internet vendors....my understanding is that it has been flagged as a Meth ingredient so kinda not wanting to order it with a credit card to my address....looked in grocery stores, hardware stores and such and most of what I've found is mixed with various other nasty chems....remember way back it was in the RIT dye section and the drain cleaning section of most places....not really seeing it as I did before and got tired of store clerks giving me weird looks for reading all the labels in the store....guess they thought I was gonna try and lift it.

In the end things turned out but I'm not going to do it that way again is all I'm saying....went from around 500ml acidic solution or less to having to add almost another gallon of H20 throughout the process in order to pass it through a seperatory funnel.

 

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its still yellow because the naphtha probably picked up a few of the oils together with dmt.. just recrystalize the yellow stuff again (adding 25ml warm naphtha per gram of impure product), and it should come out white.. That being said, its not necessary to do this, yellow is fine and the plant oils even protect the dmt from the fire when vaporizing.

btw, did you have any trouble with emulsions when using sodium carbonate for a base?

 

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K...I was figuring the yellow was from n-oxide as it does seem pretty potent...I am little more than a newborn however so I don't really have much to base that opinion on.

Oh heavens yes I had problems with emulsion...especially with Naptha....That's why I switched to Xylene and using naptha to purify afterwards....Still had emulsion issues even with Xylene though, just not as bad. I generally got around the problem by doing a clean basified water "flush" after draining basified solution. Sometimes I would still get a drop or so of emulsion in the bottom of a flask even after that but it was generally easy enough to pour carefully and not let the drop end up in the collection tray.

Trust me, I would have much preferred to use sodium or potassium hydroxide but didn't want to have to order it along with a recent spree of other supplies like scales, lab glass, and plant material. I know Big Brother IS watching....just not sure how closely.

At this point I'm on the lookout for good sources of base, zinc, and fumaric acid in order to make the next attempt much simpler and likely more rewarding as well.