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Sober in the DMT realm

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Jorkest said:
SWIM enjoys doing it with maois much better..its seriously a LOVELY experience...slows it down a little bit..and allows you to bask in its glory for a bit longer
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What do you mean LOVELY. How does it effect the experience other than prolonging it?
 
so you take some maoi's(eating them makes for the LOVELY trip) when you snort/sublingual the effects arent as good...they do work..but you arent quite getting the mao inhibition like eating it does...anyway..you eat some maoi's chill for a little bit..its even good to eat a small amount of dmt with the maois as a sort of platform...because then you already have some spice in your blood..and then when you smoke it..its like just amping up the experience a little bit..and you can do it for hours...you can just sit there in total bliss and whenever you come down enough to realize that you are taking dmt..you can just take another hit and get right back up to where you were...for another long while(it all depends how long it lasts..never really timed it)
 
Hmmmm goodstuff, thats interesting.
SWIM thins he needs to experience a couple of breakthroughs before he starts experimenting with MAOIs, but youve certainly made them sound more appealing
 
maoi's are almost like a key for dmt to work better in your body...certainly experiment more with just spice..but inhibitors take it to another level of understanding
 
I found that with just a little MAOI, the visuals were more intense, and the psychedelic side was smoother yet more intense as well. I think since I've been through it before, it was not as big of a deal as the first time. Have to try more of the MAOI to see if I can push it past 15 mins. Though I'm low on DMT so will have to extract some more.
 
In terms of quality of experience, the best legal MAOI SWIM has tried is tetrahydroharmine (THH).

Harmaline is the most potent MAOI you can legally get. So in terms of value, harmaline is better. SWIM prefers the effects of THH though. It enhances the DMT without adding any fog to the experience. Harmaline is a mild sedative and does make the experience a little foggy. When combined with DMT, it makes the trip stronger, last longer, and makes it a little more wild, but also more relaxed because harmaline is a mild sedative.

THH doesn’t produce the mental fog of harmaline, and it’s not really a sedative like harmaline. Like harmaline, it makes the trip stronger, last longer, but instead of being more wild and slightly sedating, you have more control of the experience and your mind has more energy. It’s a very difference experience.
 
Is Caapi the best way of getting THH?

69ron said:
In terms of quality of experience, the best legal MAOI SWIM has tried is tetrahydroharmine (THH).

Harmaline is the most potent MAOI you can legally get. So in terms of value, harmaline is better. SWIM prefers the effects of THH though. It enhances the DMT without adding any fog to the experience. Harmaline is a mild sedative and does make the experience a little foggy. When combined with DMT, it makes the trip stronger, last longer, and makes it a little more wild, but also more relaxed because harmaline is a mild sedative.

THH doesn’t produce the mental fog of harmaline, and it’s not really a sedative like harmaline. Like harmaline, it makes the trip stronger, last longer, but instead of being more wild and slightly sedating, you have more control of the experience and your mind has more energy. It’s a very difference experience.
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Yes, caapi is one of the best natural sources of THH. Caapi is completely legal in most countries.

You can also buy pure THH at several different places on-line. It’s also completely legal in most countries. The price varies depending on purity.

P. harmala is a poor source of THH, most has little or no THH in it. It’s mostly harmaline and harmine. Some caapi actually has THH as the main alkaloid, but usually it has more harmine than THH. Caapi has very little harmaline.
 
I never saw it as a tincture, only in powder form. Search Google shopping for "Tetrahydroharmine". You'll find it.
 
This is all still new territory. Only a small handful of people have tried orally activating DMT with tetrahydroharmine (THH), most of them are probably on this forum.

The lowest dose reported on this site was 80 mg of tetrahydroharmine HCl, it worked but wasn't quite enough. SWIM used 200 mg of tetrahydroharmine HCl and 20 mg of DMT and that seemed excessive, but works REALLY GOOD and was the best DMT experience SWIM ever had by far. Probably 120-150 of tetrahydroharmine HCl would be the right amount when taken orally with DMT.
 
A gram of the THH is expensive. Might have to wait before dishing out over $40 when it might make only about 4 doses.
 
Nanaki said:
A gram of the THH is expensive. Might have to wait before dishing out over $40 when it might make only about 4 doses.
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$40 for 1 gram of tetrahydroharmine might seem pricey but it’s not when compared with what the other vendors are charging for harmine and harmaline. According to Google shopping, several other vendors charge over $60 for only 500 mg of harmaline and over $70 for just 250 mg of harmine! Ouch!
 
The other alternative is to use caapi. Hmmmm...you need about 50 grams of caapi to get about 100 mg of THH. 100 grams costs about $20 and has about 200 mg THH. So actually, it’s cheaper to buy pure THH than to buy caapi! How is that possible? Did I miscalculate that?
 
69ron said:
The other alternative is to use caapi. Hmmmm...you need about 50 grams of caapi to get about 100 mg of THH. 100 grams costs about $20 and has about 200 mg THH. So actually, it’s cheaper to buy pure THH than to buy caapi! How is that possible? Did I miscalculate that?
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That is exactly what also baffles SWIM's FOAF; the easiest route to obtain THH is buy it, extracting from caapi is going to be more expensive, more complicated and potentially yield-less.

SWIM's FOAF suspects some other source not-so-well investigated, like caapi leaves...

But that is pure speculation
 
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