Some Dosage questions for my first time.

[SHHRSTN]

Hey all, I’m new here but hopefully I’ll be around quite a bit from now on!

- Gonna take DMT for the first time with my 2 friends and another guy’s just gonna smoke weed and make sure we’re ok.

- I watched a good video on dosing and think me and the other two will PROBABLY take around 20 mg? I think? I know we all want to at least enter the tunnel but I’m not sure if we’re ready for a breaking through dose like 25-35 mg…

- Is that reasonable first of all? Is 20 maybe too much for a beginner? Or is that maybe defeating the purpose of smoking at all and we should take more enough to break through?

- My second question is around dosage, how do I make sure that I am smoking approximately 20 mg of the stuff? If I were to sandwich method for example, would I want to load that much into my bowl and aim to smoke the whole thing in two hits?

- Should we try and get ahold of changa? Or should we just stick to sandwiching with some mullein or lactuca virosa or something?

- lastly, if we all take about 20mg how long should we be out between the 15 minute to 45 minute range?

Sorry for the seemingly never ending questions!

Thank you!

 

[1Starway7]

Hey all, I’m new here but hopefully I’ll be around quite a bit from now on!

- Gonna take DMT for the first time with my 2 friends and another guy’s just gonna smoke weed and make sure we’re ok.

- I watched a good video on dosing and think me and the other two will PROBABLY take around 20 mg? I think? I know we all want to at least enter the tunnel but I’m not sure if we’re ready for a breaking through dose like 25-35 mg…

- Is that reasonable first of all? Is 20 maybe too much for a beginner? Or is that maybe defeating the purpose of smoking at all and we should take more enough to break through?

- My second question is around dosage, how do I make sure that I am smoking approximately 20 mg of the stuff? If I were to sandwich method for example, would I want to load that much into my bowl and aim to smoke the whole thing in two hits?

- Should we try and get ahold of changa? Or should we just stick to sandwiching with some mullein or lactuca virosa or something?

- lastly, if we all take about 20mg how long should we be out between the 15 minute to 45 minute range?

Sorry for the seemingly never ending questions!

Thank you!

20 to 25 mgs is plenty on first trys... 30mgs is average dose...

you need a mg scale to weigh your doses...

A foulding paper match book sized ... [match head] .....might be close to .... 8 or 10 mgs ....of dmt crystal..... take it from there....

 

[bezevo]

are you talking 5meoDMT or nnDMT ........Because they are diffrent drugs and completly diffrent dosages ... you need an acurate mg scale , eyeballing will not be safe as DNT can aper completly diffrent in size from batch.



be safe

 

[SHHRSTN]

are you talking 5meoDMT or nnDMT ........Because they are diffrent drugs and completly diffrent dosages ... you need an acurate mg scale , eyeballing will not be safe as DNT can aper completly diffrent in size from batch.



be safe

I believe I’m talking about N, N-DMT.
Is 20mg still a reasonable first time dose for traditional DMT?

 

[bezevo]

start low like 10 ... then see if you want try 15 . remmeber you want to heat it to vapore no direct flame do not burn ...

 

[TransistorBass]

I started at 5mg, you can always go again if the 5mg calls you back.

 

[PedroSanchez]

if 20mg is what you feel is right then go with 20mg. it is not too much and if you find it to be too little then you can try again a little later. tolerance will not be an issue.

i agree you really need mg scales to make sure you are dosing correctly. though if you cannot do that then you could measure 0.1g on a less accurate scale then eyeball it into 5 equal piles. it will not be perfect but it will be close enough. the biggest difference is going to be in how you smoke it rather than how accurate your measurement is.
and yes you would load the whole dose into your bowl and smoke it all at once. one hit if you can, but more likely two or three. just as few as possible. more importantly hold each hit in for as long as possible. that makes a big difference. and as bezevo says, be careful not to burn it.

sandwich method is fine. changa or EL is better but not necessary. just put a little of your herb in the bottom to stop the DMT dripping through, then DMT, then a little on top to help protect the DMT from the flame and do the heating. just light the herb then take the flame away and let the burning herb ember do the work. only light if it goes out.
i have used mullein in this way, it is a lovely herb to use.

you should expect it to last about 15 minutes at most realistically. it is rare that it lasts longer than that using that method. 45 minutes will be your max for afterglow, but for the afterglow you will be okay to function, talk and walk around etc, though you will probably benefit most from taking that time to sit quietly and reflect.


i hope you have a wonderful journey let us know how it goes

 

[Sakkadelic]

Hey @SHHRSTN,
Welcome to the nexus!

SHHRSTN said:
- Gonna take DMT for the first time with my 2 friends and another guy’s just gonna smoke weed and make sure we’re ok.

Pretty exciting! I wish you guys a great time.

SHHRSTN said:
- I watched a good video on dosing and think me and the other two will PROBABLY take around 20 mg? I think? I know we all want to at least enter the tunnel but I’m not sure if we’re ready for a breaking through dose like 25-35 mg…

- Is that reasonable first of all? Is 20 maybe too much for a beginner? Or is that maybe defeating the purpose of smoking at all and we should take more enough to break through?
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Yes, 20 mg is generally a good starting dose, especially if you've had previous psychedelic experiences. Doing 10-15 mg first is also a good option, the tolerance with dmt resets quickly and you can launch again after 30 mins.

SHHRSTN said:
- My second question is around dosage, how do I make sure that I am smoking approximately 20 mg of the stuff? If I were to sandwich method for example, would I want to load that much into my bowl and aim to smoke the whole thing in two hits?

Yeah you should measure 20 mg and take it in 2-3 hits, don't forget to hold it in
A small bong works nicely for the sandwich method, and try not to use too much herb. You can premelt the spice into the herb beforehand by bringing the lighter close.

SHHRSTN said:
- Should we try and get ahold of changa? Or should we just stick to sandwiching with some mullein or lactuca virosa or something?

I'd say experiment with the stuff you have now and go for changa later. You can make Enhanced Leaf by yourself and that would simplify smoalking just like changa.

SHHRSTN said:
- lastly, if we all take about 20mg how long should we be out between the 15 minute to 45 minute range?

With pure dmt, it's more like 5 to 10 mins.