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Sublingual DMT ROA

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Voidmatrix said:
it states that:
'ORAL (WITHOUT MAOIS. NEEDS TO BE COLD WATER NON-ACIDIFIED INFUSION TO WORK'

I dont understand what does it mean, also the references are dead link.
The reason Im asking because during my sessions of vaporhuasca, sometimes I kiss my partner and she feels very weak effects. Is that plausible?
 
ildruido said:
Voidmatrix said:
it states that:
'ORAL (WITHOUT MAOIS. NEEDS TO BE COLD WATER NON-ACIDIFIED INFUSION TO WORK'

I dont understand what does it mean, also the references are dead link.
The reason Im asking because during my sessions of vaporhuasca, sometimes I kiss my partner and she feels very weak effects. Is that plausible?
This is referring to a cold water jurema (i.e. MHRB) infusion.

I think the information you are looking for is:
SUBLINGUAL (WITH MAOIS):
Moderate/Strong: 30mg
EDIT: Also, there's this:
ragabr said:
SWIM is pretty sensitive to harmalas, but she goes with 20mgs of sublingual for vaping. At 30mgs she begins to get standalone effects. Looking around the forums, for potentiating sublingual DMT it looks like 50-60mgs might be appropriate.


As a complete tangent, that thread in the link above also seems to contain one of the original claims regarding the supposed occurrence of 5-MeO-DMT in Diplopterys cabrerana, which no one has ever confirmed analytically, courtesy of - surprise, surprise! - 69ron :lol:
 
ildruido said:
The reason Im asking because during my sessions of vaporhuasca, sometimes I kiss my partner and she feels very weak effects. Is that plausible?
i seriously doubt it personally, but i am far from the most knowledgeable here about the science. i would love to see more input on this from others though.
the placebo effect can have very real outcomes though, so if she enjoys it then no harm done :)
 
PedroSanchez said:
ildruido said:
The reason Im asking because during my sessions of vaporhuasca, sometimes I kiss my partner and she feels very weak effects. Is that plausible?
i seriously doubt it personally, but i am far from the most knowledgeable here about the science. i would love to see more input on this from others though.
the placebo effect can have very real outcomes though, so if she enjoys it then no harm done :)

Any residual left on your mouth and in your mouth is likely miniscule. I think she may either be experiencing a placebo effect or is feeling your energy that you're putting put after the experience. When doing guidework, I tend to feel "something" from a journeyer even when I haven't taken anything. A vicarious experience.

One love
 
The Shulgins called the phenomenon 'hitchhiking'.

The vapour remnants in the room seem more likely to cause an effect than a simple kiss - although I suppose it depends how enthusiastic you get.
 
I was reading the article for DMT on psychonautwiki.org, and was surprised that it repeatedly mentions sublingual, intranasal and rectal ROAs (7-8 times for each), used concurrently with a MAOI. I've only been on Nexus since May, and I don't recall anyone mentioning using DMT in this way.

So I decided to give the sublingual method a try....

Naphtha that was used to precipitate crystals from several extractions of Acacia confusa bark (both root and trunk) and phyllodes was evaporated down to an orange, floral-smelling goo. Even though I have no MAOIs on tap, I decided to go through with the experiment anyway because of what I read in a 15-year-old thread on the old Nexus started by a member named "mindbody." They claimed that brewing 3-5 tablespoons of what was represented to them as "root bark" in water created a powerful psychedelic experience, sans mono-amine oxidase inhibition.

Rather than have a near death experience or adverse effects that would scare the shit out of my companions on a sunny Sunday morning (I had a seizure during an ayahuasca session once), I opted for a low dose.

21 mgs was placed on my tongue and held there for 10-12 minutes. It was spicy, numbing and tingling like Sichuan pepper, with an aromatic faction that was simultaneously piney and floral. After the flavor dissipated, I swallowed.

About 45 minutes after dosing, my mouth got fuzzy and dry for about 10 minutes. At the same time, my ability to focus improved and there was the sensation of more electricity/vital energy/Qi running through my torso and limbs. I felt stronger and more solid... and slightly tingly all over.

By the 1-hour and 20-minute mark, I was back at baseline.

Next time I will double the dose.
 
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