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Surgery and Hyperspace

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Hey Nexians! So, I haven't been on here in a while, mainly due to some health issues I'd been dealing with. As you've probably guessed by the title, I had surgery recently (bilateral tonsillectomy). Actually, twice if you count when they had to re-cauterize my throat. Anyway, the reason I'm making this thread is that I had an interesting experience which parallels a certain type of trip that seems to be rather common here.

I read a lot of experience reports here where people smoke DMT and report being operated on by entities, in much the same manner as a medical surgery but without sedation/anesthetic. When I came to from each surgery, I felt the same afterglow as I get after one of these DMT experiences, though more in a mental way than a physical/psychedelic manner. The days following, I've felt rejuvenated mentally and spiritually as if I'd done a ceremony, despite not having been in hyperspace for some time. This got me thinking, is there something about the act of surgery or the perception therein that facilitates or even manifests spiritual and psychological change in an individual? For me, it was almost as if just the act of being terrified of what was about to happen and facing it, then being slunghshot back to reality with hardly a memory of the event, was enough to engender the feelings of change renewal that I get from blasting off. I mean, when you think about it, the two aren't all that different. You know you're about to go into something big and scary, but you can't back down. Then you're back.

So, anyone else have a similar experience? I'm interested to hear your all's theories and experiences on this
 
One of my first few, perhaps even my first actual successful trip, I had been encountering some moderate knee pain from a sports injury. During my trip, about 5 or 6 glowing amber/yellow silhouetted entities were positioned around me and were attending to my knee. It was very evident that they were inspecting and attempting to remedy this pain I was having. They were not whole human figures, but human like, and their arms were reaching into my leg and some were massaging my leg. This absolutely astounded me because I never expected to experience anything like that!
 
It's not surprising at all in my view. I think any traumatic experience (and well, undergoing an operation sure is one) can trigger a "spiritual rebirth". Many tribal cultures have rituals that are artificial traumas for people to undergo, creating closure with their life up until that point, and opening a new chapter in life (such as becoming an adult and a man, becoming a shaman, etc.)

I'm not sure it has to do with hyperspace surgery experiences, unless via the other way around (re-living consensus reality surgery experiences in an abstract way under DMT)...
 
PsyDuckmonkey said:
It's not surprising at all in my view. I think any traumatic experience (and well, undergoing an operation sure is one) can trigger a "spiritual rebirth". Many tribal cultures have rituals that are artificial traumas for people to undergo, creating closure with their life up until that point, and opening a new chapter in life (such as becoming an adult and a man, becoming a shaman, etc.)

I'm not sure it has to do with hyperspace surgery experiences, unless via the other way around (re-living consensus reality surgery experiences in an abstract way under DMT)...
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That makes a lot of sense, especially when you consider the similar attributes that the experiences of undergoing surgery and blasting off share. I don't think there's necessarily a concrete link between actual surgery and DMT surgery experiences, but it's interesting none-the-less.

HumbleTraveler said:
One of my first few, perhaps even my first actual successful trip, I had been encountering some moderate knee pain from a sports injury. During my trip, about 5 or 6 glowing amber/yellow silhouetted entities were positioned around me and were attending to my knee. It was very evident that they were inspecting and attempting to remedy this pain I was having. They were not whole human figures, but human like, and their arms were reaching into my leg and some were massaging my leg. This absolutely astounded me because I never expected to experience anything like that!
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Wow, that's awesome thanks for sharing that! I find it strange how the entities in hyperspace can mimic real-life events so vividly yet also in ways that seem alien at times. Did the pain go away after the experience or was it more of a symbolic experience? I haven't had a hyperspace surgery experiences but a close friend has and I'm intrigued by the similarities to my own surgery experiences as well as what kind of healing is possible from those encounters with the spice :)
 
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