SWIM felt like he was dying and was afraid of that! Similar experiences?

[live]

SWIM got his first DMT trip snorting 50 mg DMT.

At first he saw beautiful colorful patterns and complex labyrinths. Now he knows where Esher & Co. take their inspiration from
But than the patterns start forming a structure like a spiral. SWIM has felt that the spiral was moving in some direction and sucking his consciousness out of his body through the frontal lobe (recall the cover picture of the book "The Spirit Molecule" - the spiral I witnessed consisted of abstract patterns, no eyes of anything you would see in our world). SWIM started to loose the feeling of his body but that was alright for him. The "wind" of the spiral became stronger and than SWIM felt like he was stopped breathing. This feeling was new to SWIM, it felt like dying and he became afraid that he is not breathing anymore. At this moment he did not trust that his body would continute breathing... He started to get really afraid and decided to focus on his body. He suddenly started to feel his breath again, and the spiral disassembled itself into patterns again.

Is this a normal break through experience? Will SWIMs body continue functioning after his soul leaves it?! Is this just about "letting go" and SWIM (as unexperienced he is) just had not let go?

 

[cellux]

Honestly, I don't know. If you've seen the same spiral that I did (on LSD), then if you go into that, the entire universe will be step-by-step deduced/reduced into a Singularity through the tale of creation being told in an inverse way (from the leaves back towards the root). When you get to 0/1 (It and You), you can either dissolve or pull back. I myself (or perhaps it was my karma, as I wasn't really existing as an ego at this point) chose to pull back, so I never came to know what happens if you dissolve into it. Taking into account the immensity, the all encompassing nature of it - that it contained everything I was and got to know up to that point -, dying is not a possibility I could rule out.

OTOH, we know that psychedelic psychotherapists in the USA actively encouraged their patients to step into it and dissolve (let it go) in such situations (because of the enormous healing potential of what comes afterwards). But there are very few cases (Stan Grof mentions only one), where this led to death. Most people come back, so the dying in 99.99...% of the cases happens only in the psyche.

I personally think that this is an experience where there are no safety belts (even the idea of a safety belt is ridiculous at that point where I was - it really becomes a question of Life and Death).

 

[anuggslife]

on my first spice ride yesterday it hit me like a train and was in so much awe i remember forgetting to breath... and as soooon as my body made me remember to breath the trip catapulted into infinity. breathing is important. i think once u break though its not up to you to breath anymore you body just does it