Pup Tentacle
lettuce
Well done and a lovely sight. Enjoy!
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Pup Tentacle
lettuce
Archmage said:
Yup... it is said that after the veils tear... the time has come
Archmage
Rising Star
So, here's the next question for all you fungi-freaks...
I didn't remove these from the cakes yet, however... they have a white fuzzy-like possible "mold/fungus" growing....
Now I am aware there are 2 types of mycelial networks, stringy and I believe fuzzy.... does this look okay to everyone? Or do I need to ditch this... Also, I believe this is the fanaticus strain, while the ones I've already harvested were the hawaiians.... Take a look below and let me know what you think!
I didn't remove these from the cakes yet, however... they have a white fuzzy-like possible "mold/fungus" growing....
Now I am aware there are 2 types of mycelial networks, stringy and I believe fuzzy.... does this look okay to everyone? Or do I need to ditch this... Also, I believe this is the fanaticus strain, while the ones I've already harvested were the hawaiians.... Take a look below and let me know what you think!
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infinitynlove
Mushroom Explorer
Hey
don't worry about fuzzy mycelium at the base of shrooms, its common, I think if your humidity is high, you get more fuzzy / fluffy mycelium growth at the bottom of the shrooms.
I am not 100% certain why this is caused, but if I can remember correctly, its from high humidity, there is nothing wrong with it, don't worry it should be fine.
If you see some really white spots or patches that look like new growth, but the new growth grows really quickly, then I would be worried, if this happens this is usually trich (Trichoderma), it will turn green shortly after which means it is sporulating (pushing out spores) if it gets to this point, your fc will be full of trich spores... and your other cakes will be more susceptible to contamination.
Trich is the bain of mushroom growers everywhere....
This is what trich looks like on cakes, I think them cakes have cobweb too...
Trich has a grainy texture, like it has been pushed against sand.
If you notice trich, get rid quick of the infected cakes and take out the rest of the cakes, then clean out your fc to prevent further spreading, then when clean put back the cakes.
Also if this happens, you could do a quick bleach dunk or a mild peroxide dunk on your cakes for their second flush, but this is optional.
Cleaning a FC with perlite in it can be done by filling up the fc containing perlite with strong bleachy water, stir and let sit for say 15 mins, then rinse with fresh water 2 - 3 times, wipe down the walls of your fc with bleach and then with peroxide.
If you are concerned, feel free to post some close up pics for identification.
Peace
don't worry about fuzzy mycelium at the base of shrooms, its common, I think if your humidity is high, you get more fuzzy / fluffy mycelium growth at the bottom of the shrooms.
I am not 100% certain why this is caused, but if I can remember correctly, its from high humidity, there is nothing wrong with it, don't worry it should be fine.
If you see some really white spots or patches that look like new growth, but the new growth grows really quickly, then I would be worried, if this happens this is usually trich (Trichoderma), it will turn green shortly after which means it is sporulating (pushing out spores) if it gets to this point, your fc will be full of trich spores... and your other cakes will be more susceptible to contamination.
Trich is the bain of mushroom growers everywhere....
This is what trich looks like on cakes, I think them cakes have cobweb too...
Trich has a grainy texture, like it has been pushed against sand.
If you notice trich, get rid quick of the infected cakes and take out the rest of the cakes, then clean out your fc to prevent further spreading, then when clean put back the cakes.
Also if this happens, you could do a quick bleach dunk or a mild peroxide dunk on your cakes for their second flush, but this is optional.
Cleaning a FC with perlite in it can be done by filling up the fc containing perlite with strong bleachy water, stir and let sit for say 15 mins, then rinse with fresh water 2 - 3 times, wipe down the walls of your fc with bleach and then with peroxide.
If you are concerned, feel free to post some close up pics for identification.
Peace
infinitynlove
Mushroom Explorer
Archmage said:
Superb first attempt !!!
Better than my first attempt, all mine went green!
*bows*
Entheogenerator
Homo discens
Pup Tentacle said:Yup... it is said that after the veils tear... the time has come
Some growers advise that one harvest as soon as the veil just barely starts to rip, when it is still mostly attached. This will minimize the amount of spores that are released onto the substrate. Supposedly letting the fruit bodies drop spore before harvest will inhibit the growth of subsequent flushes, but as far as I know this theory is solely based on anecdotal evidence.Archmage said:
Lookin' mighty fine there, Archmage. Keep up the good work! :thumb_up:
Pup Tentacle
lettuce
Archmage said:
I have read this same thing somewhere, but haven't noticed in my personal experience that some spores inhibit more fruiting. That being said, I try not let tons of spore drop onto a substrate.
Great looking flush! Enjoy those
infinitynlove
Mushroom Explorer
I have read the same thing about spores dropping and stunting further flushes...
but in the past I have neglected a tray on its 3rd flush and the tray ended up covered with spores, the tray was literally purple, I figured this is going to be the last flush, but I found that some of the spores must of germinated and I got a new kinda fuzzy mycelium growth across the whole tray.
the 4th flush and 5th flushes where decent, 4th was as good as or close to the 3rd, so I don't know if its true or not.
You dont really see any noticeable sporulation until all the veil has ripped and the head is about to fully open, usually a day after the veil has just started to tear / rip, this is my exp anyhow....
maybe spores are dropped earlier with different species and/or a different strain? but thai's Cambodians and golden teachers (all cubensis) all seem to sporulate about a day after the veil has started to rip.... But this could be down to my fruiting conditions, FAE, temp, light etc....
Hope this helps
Great first attempt!
but in the past I have neglected a tray on its 3rd flush and the tray ended up covered with spores, the tray was literally purple, I figured this is going to be the last flush, but I found that some of the spores must of germinated and I got a new kinda fuzzy mycelium growth across the whole tray.
the 4th flush and 5th flushes where decent, 4th was as good as or close to the 3rd, so I don't know if its true or not.
You dont really see any noticeable sporulation until all the veil has ripped and the head is about to fully open, usually a day after the veil has just started to tear / rip, this is my exp anyhow....
maybe spores are dropped earlier with different species and/or a different strain? but thai's Cambodians and golden teachers (all cubensis) all seem to sporulate about a day after the veil has started to rip.... But this could be down to my fruiting conditions, FAE, temp, light etc....
Hope this helps
Great first attempt!
Archmage
Rising Star
Day 45.... sigh.... think I'm in trouble.
So We wind up having to take our kid out of state for his birthday - and leave Saturday morning to return sunday night. Saturday morning would have been Day 44 - and you guys saw what we pulled off the places.... Not bad....
Mist em, and leave.... come back sunday night with a close friend just opening their box 3 times a day and very lightly misting... Here are the pics.....
Any thoughts?
Just summing up the pics below:
1st Pic - 1st harvest plate in bowl with dessicant for 2 days after 6 hours of fan drying them... Opened dessicant chamber and the shrooms were wet again... and had changed colors. When using a dessicant chamber - i read that a good idea was to place it in the fridge - I'm thinking I got bad information... THoughts?
2nd-5th pics... just some shots of the shrooms - they have funny colors here and there, RR insists that molds that grow on the spores or whatever will in no way affect us, and inisists that is a myth. Anyone's thoughts?
You can see if you look closely at the pic with my finger pointing - that I'm wiping "spores" off of the top of the shroom... at first I thougth it was brown mold...
So We wind up having to take our kid out of state for his birthday - and leave Saturday morning to return sunday night. Saturday morning would have been Day 44 - and you guys saw what we pulled off the places.... Not bad....
Mist em, and leave.... come back sunday night with a close friend just opening their box 3 times a day and very lightly misting... Here are the pics.....
Any thoughts?
Just summing up the pics below:
1st Pic - 1st harvest plate in bowl with dessicant for 2 days after 6 hours of fan drying them... Opened dessicant chamber and the shrooms were wet again... and had changed colors. When using a dessicant chamber - i read that a good idea was to place it in the fridge - I'm thinking I got bad information... THoughts?
2nd-5th pics... just some shots of the shrooms - they have funny colors here and there, RR insists that molds that grow on the spores or whatever will in no way affect us, and inisists that is a myth. Anyone's thoughts?
You can see if you look closely at the pic with my finger pointing - that I'm wiping "spores" off of the top of the shroom... at first I thougth it was brown mold...
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Pup Tentacle
lettuce
I don't think they're ruined.
How many flushes have you gotten from those cakes?
Nothing looks too horrible. I see spores and what looks like bruising... some of the darker/greener places may be trich, but (and your photos are good) it's still hard to tell for sure.
I never expect much past the third flush - although I've had a few good 4th and 5th flushes.
If you really doubt that a cake is in good shape - take it out and let the rest keep on truckin'. You've got nothing to lose and only more shrooms to gain. :thumb_up:
Well done :want:
How many flushes have you gotten from those cakes?
Nothing looks too horrible. I see spores and what looks like bruising... some of the darker/greener places may be trich, but (and your photos are good) it's still hard to tell for sure.
I never expect much past the third flush - although I've had a few good 4th and 5th flushes.
If you really doubt that a cake is in good shape - take it out and let the rest keep on truckin'. You've got nothing to lose and only more shrooms to gain. :thumb_up:
Well done :want:
Pup Tentacle
lettuce
Did you dunk (but not roll) again after the first flush? If not, that may help .
Mister_Niles
Esteemed member
Maybe it's too early to ask you this, maybe not. How are you enjoying the process? Do you think you'll do it again?
I just inoculated on Saturday and at this point I'm feeling an equal mix of excitement and anxiety. I think I may see something happening in a couple of my jars. I need to leave them alone. This process seems like it might engender discipline and patience, which will be good for me.
I just inoculated on Saturday and at this point I'm feeling an equal mix of excitement and anxiety. I think I may see something happening in a couple of my jars. I need to leave them alone. This process seems like it might engender discipline and patience, which will be good for me.
Gone-and-Back
Rising Star
I took some mushrooms with a friend of mine that were colored completely black, except for the bottom of the stems and the very largest of the caps. He told me it was because they were grown a little to long and the spores dropped, which is why the larger caps were not black since they stuck above the rest.
Needless to say we ate them. I did not notice any ill effects from them. They just tasted like garbage.
However, dont just eat them because of my experience. You should make sure its not mold first.
Needless to say we ate them. I did not notice any ill effects from them. They just tasted like garbage.
However, dont just eat them because of my experience. You should make sure its not mold first.