Syrian Rue Q's

[TruthSeeker11]

So I'm planning a Ruemosa trip here soon. I will be by myself near a lake, moon/stars out, 10grams of mimosa brew and 4grams of syrian rue. I plan on taking the rue 40 mins prior to the mimosa brew.

First I want to test out the syrian rue and make sure I'm taking the correct dose/ingestion method so my trip to the lake is not wasted. Which I'm doing now, my first test, took 3.5g of syrian rue about 20 minutes ago, didn't crush or powder the seeds, just left them whole and put in a little bit of water and drank, barely tasted anything.

How do I know if the rue has done its job and inhibited my maoi/s?
So far I haven't noticed any effects from the rue except that more positive thinking? Which I'm not sure was the cause of the rue..

Should I have powdered the rue? Does it matter? Just takes longer when ingesting them whole? Should I wait longer than 40 mins to take the brew if I ingest them whole?

Edit: I should add that this is my first oral dmt experience.
I am looking to heal and learn as much as I can on this journey.


Any recommendations or replies greatly appreciated!

-Austin

 

[3rdI]

I'm not sure how long the effects of whole seeds will take to kick in, but brewed/extract takes around 20-30 mins.

Next time I would either brew of extract the plants, taking whole seeds/bark is just pointless and unpleasant.

Good luck with your travels

 

[arcologist]

You should be good with those doses. I would recommend taking the mimosa brew either with the rue brue, or no more than 20 minutes after the rue. It's only ever worked for me when it was in that time period. My theory is that taking the DMT part while there are still harmalas in the stomach helps protect it from MAO. Take too long to take the DMT and it will get knocked out by MAO that remained in the stomach after harmalas are absorbed into the bloodstream.

Did you heat the rue brew? You're not going to get great results unless you heat it for at least 15 minutes, preferably 3x15 minutes to get the actives to go into the solution. You should just put the whole seeds in a pot, boil for 15 minutes three times, then combine your boils, straining out the seeds. It's going to taste pretty bad when done properly, the brew should be dark yellow/brown. When it's working you'll feel a light buzz, kind of like being stoned, rather uncoordinated.

You'll want to do something similar with the mimosa brew. The goal is to get the active alkaloids to go into the solution to be quickly absorbed. Be careful to not overheat.

Good luck!

 

[TruthSeeker11]

Thanks for the quick replies!

I have not had any unpleasant feelings and I took 3.5g of whole rue seeds about 40-60 mins ago. Feeling great. But perhaps pointless like you said 3rdI.

I did eat a big dinner a few hours prior to taking them idk if that has effected anything?

I will do another test tomorrow with 3.5grams of syrian rue but brew it this time.
(3x15mins just under boiling)

I will likely have my regular breakfast smoothie(peanut butter/banana/almond milk/black berries/raw greens/multi vitamin) and some fruit the day of my journey, fast 6-8 hours before taking the rue.
Anything specific in my multi vitamin I should check for?

I will keep researching and figuring out what's best, thank you guys!

Edit: I will remember to take the mimosa brew 15-20 mins after the rue brew and not 40.

-Austin