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Running Bear
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You're getting way to technical about this. The question has been answered a million times on the nexus and there are much better videos out there than that. It literally took me 10 seconds to find a dmt re-x video haha. I would use heptane or even naphtha. 1. If I was you I would put 50cc of naphtha in something like a shot glass with a gram of dmt. 2. Use something like a crock pot to heat the naphtha. 3.Stir and let your DMT completely dissolve and at this point you should see a lot of the impurities sink to the bottom. 4.Cover shot glass and put it in the freezer for 30 min. 5.Pull out of the freezer when the naphtha is milky white and right before the crystals start to form on the glass. 5. Use something like a turkey baster to siphon out the milky naphtha with out touching any of the nasty stuff on the bottom. 6. Put milky naphtha on dish for freeze precipitation. You may want to use something thicker than a shot glass because they can only take so much heat. This should be a good method for your first re-x. Good luck 
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That's very bad advice. Do not heat naphtha directly. Always use a pre-prepared hot water bath to heat flammable volatile solvents!Running Bear said:
Also, a little more formatting might make your contributions easier to read and digest.
Running Bear
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O pitubo I was waiting for that. why do I even bother to help people.
Running Bear said:
No it doesn't. It removes the goo (really dark yellow color), Thats the goo you are talking about in the bottom. But it doesn't remove the color completely.
You will never get a transparant crystal from just a Re-X method you described (starting with yellow freebase DMT). There are more factors that come into play or you need to Re-X like 2/3 times before you can reach it. But that takes more then a week to achieve.
If i can find a way to make the re-x tek possible you can re-x 5-6 times a day. Just to give you a idea how much faster it really is.
But thank you for your answers!
1. If you had done so much research, then when are you still SWIM'ming? It's a deprecated style here.Feoom said:
2. Careful recrystallization can remove some of the yellow, and most of the yellow by repeated recrystallization. It is a bit of an art form that needs much practice to achieve some degree of perfection.
3. Full evaporation leaves behind not only crystals of dmt, but also all of the nonvolatile impurities. So it would not be the best way to go. Partial evaporation takes time, so by that virtue it often gives good results, because of the slow crystalliaztion.
4. Did you consider another A/B (often called a "mini A/B" )? That seems to me the fastest and surest path toward white spice.
How do you know so certainly that it will actually work out the way you say it will? Did you do any experiments before posting your questions? Watching youtube videos does not qualify as an actual experiment.Feoom said:
But does "SWIM" know how it works for someone who is skilled in the art?Feoom said:
If your question is suited to the "Advanced Chemistry" section, it might be replaced there by a forum moderator. But I doubt that this question is.Feoom said:
It did raise some doubts with me, enough to warrant mentioning it. Plus, most of the references that you gave were youtube videos and none referenced the multitude of topics on this forum. To be honest, I am still not convinced that your ideas are thoroughly researched, though neither can I state with full conviction that they are not.Feoom said:
Don't feel too harshly judged by my criticisms. Take it as an encouragement to do more work and further refine your ideas and proposals. Maybe it will some day lead to an interesting new development.Feoom said:
For now, I can report you that my attempts to use evaporating ethanol as a recrystallization solvent did not lead to crystals, just goo.
I don't need to be a moderator to point out your disregarding of the rules of the forum. If the whole responsibility to flag breaches of the rules lies with the moderators, then the forum would quickly lose both quality and moderators.Running Bear said:
And it is not petty confrontational behavior to speak out when unsafe practices are being promoted. Your response on the other hand...
Running Bear
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pitubo said:
It's not what you said, it's the way you said it.
Does dmt even freeze-precipitate from ethanol at home-freezer temp? I dont think so as dmt is very soluble in ethanol.
BUT, you could perhaps try this:
1 - Saturate filtered or distilled water with sodium chloride then filter it again to remove any salt excess
2 - Add some very little amount of ethanol to your spice, only enough to make it more pasty
3 - Add saline water to the pasty spice, add alot of water, some 300ml or so for every 1ml of ethanol, and put it to freeze-precipitate
My guess is that as ethanol becomes more polar, its non-polar characteristics will be diminished, making the dmt to precipitate at lower temp. I dont know if this is true though that by increasing ethanol polarity its non-polar aspect will decrease. I did a quick search but couldnt find anything... someone with better knowledge than me might answer this
BUT, you could perhaps try this:
1 - Saturate filtered or distilled water with sodium chloride then filter it again to remove any salt excess
2 - Add some very little amount of ethanol to your spice, only enough to make it more pasty
3 - Add saline water to the pasty spice, add alot of water, some 300ml or so for every 1ml of ethanol, and put it to freeze-precipitate
My guess is that as ethanol becomes more polar, its non-polar characteristics will be diminished, making the dmt to precipitate at lower temp. I dont know if this is true though that by increasing ethanol polarity its non-polar aspect will decrease. I did a quick search but couldnt find anything... someone with better knowledge than me might answer this
Okay, let's go back to my actual posting that caused you react like you did:Running Bear said:
AFAICS its all constructive criticism and none is worded particularly awkwardly.pitubo said:
I could have added wry remarks about actually reading the posting you're responding to or even trying to understand what is being proposed. I didn't, because at that time it would not have added much to the thread. But now that you have partially derailed this thread into ad hominems, I do see a place to mention it anyway.