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lorax

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i think it should be a bit more secret. it also shouldn't be so easy to sign up for an account. i think one should first give mr.traveller a good reason why one wants to join the forum so he can decide whether or not this person will contribute to it.

what do you think about this?
 
I'm torn on this issue.

I have thought that myself on occasion, but also feel that it is important to allow people access to the information found within this forum.

On the other hand, closing it up would prevent law enforcement from gather information on people...but even then all it takes it a well written email and LEO gets in anyway.

I dunno, this is really up to The Traveler.
 
What about all the people who don't know much but want to know more. One of my major motivations for using this site, is to help such people. Anything that hinders honest, clear, open and free disscusion repells me.
 
I've alway said security by obscurity is not an option. Thats also the reason why this site is still alive (long story, don't ask). The only thing we have to steer away from are really incriminating subjects that would jeapordise the existence of this site like talking about drug trafficking, selling DMT, etc.

Informing people about all other aspects of DMT is very important to me. Like, besides the health benefits there is always the chance of people doing something wrong, creating a thread to either themselves or their environment. Without a site like this people would be left on their own and who knows what will come from that?

For a law enforcement agency it would be peanuts to write a good apostel to get entry to the site, the only ones we would be fooling is ourselves.

Also when new users signup and start misbehaving, first thing is informing them of their misbehaviour and giving them another change to show they are worth it to keep being a member. Sometimes when people keep failing they will get suspended but until now I can easely count those people on one hand.

Then another aspect of this site, and I'm quite proud of it, is thats since it contains a lot of technical knowhow brought in by very knowledgable members, it also attracts other people with a lot of knowhow. I think I'm pretty safe to asume that this site has an average IQ fairly above 100. ;)


Yours sincerely,

The Traveler
 
If anything, I think the values shown by the people on this site are nothing but good publicity for DMT. The 'ethical IQ' here seems higher as well as the intellectual one.

I would never have joined if it was secret. Who can be bothered to join something before you know if it's good or not?

And this would be a hell of a lot more work for Traveler... look at Erowid, they have to assess every report and despite all their volunteers they're still a year behind.
 
yea.. you're probably right with those points. its just a shame that bodily fluids are forbidden. i've also noticed that this forum is such a nice place with people who aint stupid. i was just afraid that that could change at some point. but i guess that with mr.traveller controlling it i should have more faith in it. i also think that even stupid people might learn to behave better when getting in contact with this forum.

sorry for this paranoid thought.
 
lorax said:
...its just a shame that bodily fluids are forbidden...

This is quite off topic. Apologies.

As far as legality of dmt is concerned, I have yet to hear of a conviction solely based on extraction/possession of dmt. No good info on sentences solely for such offences can be easily found . SWIM's lawyer believes that a good lawyer can "push" the point in the court that should this X person is sentenced for possession of dmt, then virtually all people should be sentenced accordingly for carrying class A / schedule I substances in their bodies.

Something similar happened in UK few years back where possession of fresh (not dried) mushrooms was deemed not illegal on the (quite silly in my opinion) grounds that one cannot determine the amount of psilocybin and psilocin on fresh specimens so one cannot be prosecuted for carrying potentially totally inactive mushrooms. This loophole was used for legal selling of fresh mushrooms from headshops before the law changed to include both fresh and dried ones.
 
lorax said:
i guess that with mr.traveller controlling it i should have more faith in it. i also think that even stupid people might learn to behave better when getting in contact with this forum.
sorry for this paranoid thought.

Remember you can help keep the nexus clean from suspicious activity and unacceptable forum behavior by reporting questionable threads to The Traveler, myself, or one of the other mods of the forum.

The Traveler does an amazing job and runs an amazing site, I'm glad I found it!
 
I personally am against the idea of closing the site to the public. This site does a lot to support people who are interested in this subject and having some secret society would be a turn off. Furthermore I know people who don't like to sign up to sites like this (because they are a bit paranoid but whatever) but like to still get the information off of them. This would not be fair for individuals who just like to browse these sites.

However I do think it is important to close threads that promote dangerous and illegal activities as well as ban individuals who cross the line. Narcs would be the biggest concern but they can go f%ck themselves.
 
well as most of us know...narcs should have no reason to be here..because everything we talk about is purely hypothetical..because I would never break the law...hell no!
 
Infundibulum said:
lorax said:
...its just a shame that bodily fluids are forbidden...

This is quite off topic. Apologies.

As far as legality of dmt is concerned, I have yet to hear of a conviction solely based on extraction/possession of dmt. No good info on sentences solely for such offences can be easily found . SWIM's lawyer believes that a good lawyer can "push" the point in the court that should this X person is sentenced for possession of dmt, then virtually all people should be sentenced accordingly for carrying class A / schedule I substances in their bodies.

Something similar happened in UK few years back where possession of fresh (not dried) mushrooms was deemed not illegal on the (quite silly in my opinion) grounds that one cannot determine the amount of psilocybin and psilocin on fresh specimens so one cannot be prosecuted for carrying potentially totally inactive mushrooms. This loophole was used for legal selling of fresh mushrooms from headshops before the law changed to include both fresh and dried ones.

Hmmm... Was always under the impression that the reason fresh shrooms were legal was so as not to criminalise normal members of the public who had accidentally picked them (old grannies and the like). The problem came when 0.001% of fresh psy mushrooms were picked this way and 99.999% were sold from head shops etc! Ahh how I loved that loophole.

IMO this forum should definitely stay public and open. I have no fear of the narcs because I do absolutely nothing illegal and neither should any of you guys. It's very important for people to have full and frank information that they can access with ease about this stuff.

What I love about this forum is that it's generally populated by serious thinkers, not thrill seekers. I don't think that closing it off is necessary to maintain that, I just think that's the nature of the person who enjoys dreaming.
 
What would law enforcement gain by observing us here? Maybe they would bust one of us making 2g. of spice!
I seriously don't think they think it's worth it. And if this site would be put down then another would soon pop up! There's no way stopping people like us! :D
 
Keep it free and open!
The only way to beat the closed minded fools that run the war on drugs is free and open information.
The more minds that open up and become free the less and less control the governments will have.
The war on drugs is nothing more than a war of control.
Once your mind has been freed, you no longer want to control anyone.
 
I wonder if any narcs monitoring any sites (not only this one) have actually been turned to this way of thinking by the discussions they read... I find the main thing with D is actually how little people know about it, you may come across someone who's heard of it, but it's very rare to find someone who really knows.

Surely if you read about this stuff daily you'd be a little bit curious, particularly since very few people have bad things to say about it..

Narcs --> speak now or forever hold your peace!
 
Jorkest said:
FREEDOM!!!!!!!!

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Anything that I post is fictional and is purely part of my imagination. Do not attempt any of the activities described above.
I'm sorry!!!!

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people need information, keep the site open to the public.
 
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