I have waited a long time to post this as there is much back story. I have a batch of what I believe to be Mimosa extracted DMT that is unique and exceptional in every way. It is the Holy Grail and I am unable to produce anything close.
Background: I started smoking DMT about 25 years ago, when I was in my early 20's. I received a batch of hard stinky crystal DMT I now know was 5-MEO, it was said to have came from the toad. I had done many Psychedelics leading up to this and when the opportunity arose I acquired what I thought might be a lifetime batch, 40G. It lasted me 10 years, only smoking with close friends on special occasions and smoking by myself as well. I was not research savvy at the time and assumed this was DMT but it was surely 5-MEO which is very different while still the same. I never understood the difference until this past year. Uncanny features of the 5-MEO was how bad it smelled like mouthballs in its molecular form and also once smoked. You could smell it in the room the next day. I had to isolate the bong I used in a rubbermaid as it smelled incredibly strong. I would break up the crystal and my hand would stink for a day as well. This smell always stayed with me. There was not much take-away from the trips but they sure were mind expanding to say the least. One time I was sure I discovered the meaning to life and then lost it upon re-entry.
I came upon a batch of 10G Mimosa given to me 3 years ago. It had been a long time since the 5-MEO and I considered it the same substance. It smelled the same but resembled what you see on this forum as a crude bright orange crumble extract. I had not found the Nexus yet and did not understand extraction. Now that I do I would always choose to smoke something I have made and not given. But I was lucky, this stuff was on another level. Given what I knew about my hundreds of 5-MEO experiences I was tentative to try it. Life was different I had grown up and had kids and many more obligations and stresses from work. It took me a while to find the right time, but it came one night when I could not get my brain to shut up, I was driving myself crazy contemplating all the stresses of life. I made a bold choice at about 1am when I knew I would not sleep and blasted off. Hard. This batch is all OEV transporting me to a spiritual realm. No cyberspace, no entities it is the spirit land no question. I heard unearthly languages on my strongest trip chanting to me in monotonic layers of pitch. The colors are always electric in quality. I have a guide I am mentally communicating with on most trips. Things are mind blowing and when I come to all my questions are answered simply. Physically my heart and breathing has come to the slow state of what one would obtain in deep meditation. 3 breaths per second. Light breaths. I have never been able to meditate. I will dig into the health benefits from crude extract I have discovered on another post to follow, I am convinced that DMT is medicine for the body and soul in a way not many will ever know. But not the pure stuff. It has to be the full extract IMO.
This first trip was spectacular. Colorful machine like matrix. Floating cinematic perspectives. No consciuosness of self. When I came to, the inner chirping started again with my problems and inner monologue sounding up. I made a joke to myself "We gotta choak this guy" referring to my inner monologue, he was irritating the heck out of me during one of the most amazing trips I ever had. I told a few people this story and my friend laughed and told me this is buddhism. "The Atman" (the watcher and the greater self) was annoyed by the constant chattering of the "monkey mind". That was me I was him.
So I started smoking alot. I mean alot. One or two break thru's a night, most nights. It was the summer I felt alive. It started off with 70-80MG hits ( I would not advice this of anything pure like white fluff) and I worked my way up to some 150MG hits that were not entirely consumed. It akes more of the crude extract to balst off then the pure molecule. This stuff melted just like the old 5-MEO. You had to hit it hard and hot or it would slip thru any screen or even MJ sandwich buffer. I have a very special setup with a bong slide that has charcoal filters on top and bottom that allows a torch to vaporize the contents at medium heat. It is super effective. Large hits are the key to break thru's and this bong setup is it. Some got lost on these mega doses and my hardest trip came from clearing out the resin left with a ton of torch hits. I did not expect it. I heard the chants and went one million miles below our existence and kept going deeper and deeper. I knew not to breath. Minutes seem like hours and it felt like I no linger needed oxygen. I held my breath subconsciously going so far into things it was life changing. I finally took a breath and came up the one million miles in one second and came back into my body. That was the hardest trip I ever took. This batch of DMT sometimes feels like someone cut open a fiberoptic cable and sprayed me with so much information in such a short time that it is impossible to retain. But I later realized you do retain, it does come back. DMT has strengthened my DNA I am positive. THEY have probed my brain and extracted information from me as well but that is another story.
Life had been hard, this ended up being my therapy in so many indescribable ways. The matrix i saw in the beginning was machine like. One time I asked it a question as everything was so beautiful. I had been doing a photogrohy assignement and asked it on my way in how to light things properly. It showed me the most beautiful lighting of a machine matrix and answered my question. This progressed into passing thru "the gate". I saw monkey dolls that were statues, they were the gatekeepers. They were statues with only their eyes that showed life. Cinematic scroll down of their bodies that were also machines in the matrix. Electro-colors. Past this my break thus where all in the spirit realm. I would do these hits as medicine to very hard and un-winnable days. Life is like that, not all days are good and my days had been terrible. This stash was medicine. I di not need set and sitting I was messed up from life and this batch fixerd me. These hits would clear my mind and alleviate my stress, I was so grateful to DMT for that, more grateful then I have ever been for anything. I always stayed humble in its precence. The most beatiful trip I took had ancient images portrayed in electric neon green and pink light emerging from the ground. The green would float upwards and the pink would float and melt into my body. Everytime the pink energy entered me it healed me, and it was succesional. It kept hitting me and healing me and I said "you don't need to help me I am here as a student and a pupil" as I felt as if pitty was taken on me. I have never asked for help from anyone. THEY said "We are not doing anything you just need to love yourself". And they were right. I had been beating myself up over things I could not prevent. THEY are always right. On this trip I came to, and was in my room but it was the Aurora Borealis 100%. Neon blues and greens floating in the air like clouds. It was more spectacular then anything I have seen in hundreds of trips. And the healing power was undeniable. I get emotional thinking of what THEY gave me on this trip.
I started running out of this stash and became worried. 2G's left maybe. My friend turned me on to the Nexus and offered me Gordo-tek. This tek works good but produced a very pure white fluff that did not smell, taste or resemble what I was accustommed to. I was confused. I started smoking it with some worry of how far off I was from what I was used to. Keep in mind I still did not understand fully that my Holy Grail stash was not 5-MEO even though it smelled so strongly of it. It was Mimosa as far as I later learned, but I was confused. Why was Gordo-tek giving me something that did not smell strongly or look the same color? My trips sucked in comparisson. Cyberspace, alone, no meditative breathing no spirits no nothing. White fluff IMO 2 out of 10. It did not compare even closely to the batch I had. I started to get real worried. What if I could not produce what I thought was DMT that had done so much for me? I had blown through 10G of something I would give anything for un-knowingly. I felt desperate.
I tried many teks. I read Shaggy-tek and there was a quote about how the full extract with the bright orange color was the magical extract. I thought this was the answer but this was just the beginning. I did some Shaggy-tek and liked the smell and look. My Holy Grail stash is bright yellow/orange and stinks even after being only in a jar at room temp for years. I will post pics in later threads but it will look like any other crude extract. I started producing some things that were bright yellow and stunk if you walked in the room. But this tek was evaporation. I do not recomend evaporation you must crash out, evaporation in this case with Thoraine was gross. I had spirits shaking jars at me telling me I was doing it wrong on high doses. There were impurities. I was confused. And getting very nervous I was about to lose something special.
I tested. Naptha vs Hepthane, A/B, S/T/B all against each other. Different barks you name it. I was convinced there was a recipe I was missing. How in the world is my stash so special and I cannot re-formaulte it? It literally drove me nuts. Testing in a frantic frenzy all with not even close to the results I was looking for... I consumed impurities and am sure of it. I will post a very safe tek outlining what NOT to do, from mistakes I have made. Micro emulsions are real, and even 1/100th of a mg of impurity will mess you up, trust me, with it especially noticable on my preferred high doses.
At this point I am submersed in my own world. I really have no one to relate to on what I am going through, losing the most sacred thing I have ever found, and am bugging. I reached out. Friend of a friend. Was surprised they responded but this is what he said : " this was made from generations old Purple Mimosa trees in Brazil, and extracted in Brazil. The extrator had died and his mentor had disappeared. It was S/T/B they flipped large jars every couple hours. Lye. Buchner funnel, Naptha" that was it. I had more questions but these were all the answers that I could get. At this point I am Indianna Jones looking for the lost Grail by myself. I had to theorize these points of extraction:
- Brazil, in the jungle, low natural heat to extract
- "Flip Jars" slow process
- S/T/B = Crude extract (possible natural MAOI extraction)
- Naptha
And I tested. On myself. With much dissapointment. I tested so quickly that I consumed toxins from what I believe could have been micro emulsions of lye and trapped contaminants of solvents. I will post on this another time. At one point I high dosed and immedailty said "this is not it" and got in a squable with DMT as THEY said this was it, but it was not. I felt as though I had lost a loved one. What if I could not get back to what I knew as the ultimate journey? On one of my last trips on the Holy Grail stash a white goddess came to me, all in shades of white and started blessing me again with the pink energy. It was everything I ever wanted and I cried knowing I would lose her. I am going to tell you right now it is the bark. I reached out to the guy and he said "Yes it is the bark" . This bark is so magical and so spiritual it is the difference. It smells like MEO but is Mimosa. It was said to come form generation old trees. It is my theory and my theory alone, that old Mimosa trees have the potential to produce small amounts of 5-MEO with the N NDMT that is normally extracted. Has to be low heat no acid, STB. 69Ron said on some very old posts that 5-MEO may be in more things than we know as it is very finicky to extract and lost in the process of extraction most times. This additive plus the crude extract of MAOI's proves to be unsurpassed in my experience. I have refined my crude extract to what I believe the Brazilians acheived and have still fallen short. I have sensed turmoil in barks I questioned as not sustainably sourced, the spirit of the tree was not there or not positive. In some Mexican bark it was all turmoil on high doses, I knew something bad had been done to this tree.
Here are my theories:
- Naptha is the most conducive solvent to "Full Spectrum" extracts that involve naturally occurring MAOI's in the tree. Full Spectrum refers to all the alkaloids the tree is giving in conjunction with the DMT molecule that help in its metabolizing. I have had some skeptisism about my term "full spectrum" on this forum. Read this link and you will understand fully of the Synergy of full spectrum:
www.gaiaherbs.com
- S/T/B low heat gives you the brightest and most pungent crude extract containing these MAOI's. This is based on my tests.
- The bark used is crucial. Mass harvested bark by new trees on the web will not give you the same trip as what I have experienced. I am very sure of this.
I am sometimes curious as to why there is not more discussion on why people value some teks over others. There is not much talk about the quality of the trip or physical health benefits. One of my favorite posts came from an Australian that is labeled "sticky" on the Changa page. Chocobeastie. I like this guy. He claimed his "plant head" friends could decipher between Mimosa and Acacia and people scoffed at him. I would not be able to decipher pure white fluff from various trees but can surely see huge differences in Acacia vs Mimosa as well as Purple Mimosa in my crude extract process. The Purple Mimosa for example would give me a different set of color visuals all in reds and purples. Some barks have more entities in my trips. Some are more cyberspace, some are more spiritual. I am curious about others opinions on this subject as this is what I value in my extract process, with the goal always to achieve the Holy Grail status of my original batch of crude extract.
I have reached a point where I am very confident in my crude extract process and will post it on another thread. You have to be careful with any process that can trap contaminants such as lye or solvent, the crude extract being a part of this with its crumbly form. One time i accidentally pressurized a jar during precipitation of some white fluff with some heptane and produced the most potent diamonds there could be, they were strong and pure I thought. I had been mixing them into some weak changa for a week and having amazing blast offs, going just as deep maybe as my Holy Grail stash just in a different way. Well one of them diamonds must have been holding something real bad, as one night I hit them and the start of my trip was a noisy overwhelming static with a volume of 10. It scarred the crap out of me and as I went into the trip the static climbed instontaneously to a level I was sure was frying my brain. I said goodbye to my kids in my head and went under, I was sure I was fried. I awoke knealing on the floor beside the bed I had started out on. I was under for maybe 15 minutes I would guess. I could not believe I was back but i was dizzy and still tripping super hard. It was actually a nightmare and gave me quite a bit of PTSD. For the next hour i rolled back and forth in bed trying to get my head right, banging on my head periodically with my fists. The next day I was still dizzy and felt like something terrible had happpened to me. This inspired me to investigate everything I could to make my extracts contaminant free and I have some tricks now and am better off for the loss I took. These will all be posted in my tek later to come.
So the bad news is that I am not sure I will ever find bark as sacred as the bark I loved so much. I would bet my life there are trace amounts of 5-MEO in this old Mimosa tree bark. One thing that baffles me about my Holy Grail stash is how deep I go and how quickly I come back. I have been back to reality in a short ten minutes after even the hardest trips I have taken. 5-MEO is the only answer I can come up with for this. MAOI's make you trip longer and the crude extracts I am making now usually have me peak for 5-10 minutes with after effects lasting another 20 minutes. This makes no sense to me as the Holy Grail stash is so much shorter and more intense but like I said I believe there is 5-MEO present. How else could this stuff still stink so heavily after years and years of me opening the jar? You can read my "20 year old 5-MEO" post on a past thread where I found some old 5-MEO my friend had in a cigerette celefane in a barn that was literally 20 years old. The stuff still stinked like I remembered. I had given it to him that long ago. That is how strong 5-MEO is, it still smelled pungent with no jar or any protection from summer and winter 20 years later. There is not much on this planet that can do that and not break down, that is the power of 5-MEO.
So if there is any silver lining for anyone as bummed as me about my story or maybe not having the best bark, it is this. With the combination of herbs or Changa mixes, you can acheive spiritual break thrus even if using a pure NDMT white fluff or crystal. Herbs like Damiana have plenty of spirit in them. My second hardest trip I ever took was not my Holy Grail stash it was Damiana and the diamonds before I threw my diamonds out. I saw a beaken of light revolving around in revolution similar to a light tower, with 80 million shades of lime green. I counted them. It was unreal. I have some awesome Changa teks I will also share on a seperate Changa post as I have been experimenting with different herbs, they are wonderful.
So that is my story that I have been alone with for the past year. It has been a quest with triumphs and fails, and I still worry that once my Grail stash is gone I might never have the same experiences again, but I am ok with that I guess with what I have learned. I only smoke it now every few months it is my prize possesion. I am thinking about possibly sending a sample of what I have left to drugsdata.org as they do testing and might be able to determine if there really is 5-MEO in my stash as I believe. And what I have learned is that I am not interested in pure white crystals. I give them a 2/10 compared to full spectrum, they just don't interest me. I have read many amazing stories on this forum and do wonder if this is a personal preference of mine, as people generally do not describe what they are smoking when discussing their experiences. For me that is always the first question that comes to mind: what is in your spice?
Background: I started smoking DMT about 25 years ago, when I was in my early 20's. I received a batch of hard stinky crystal DMT I now know was 5-MEO, it was said to have came from the toad. I had done many Psychedelics leading up to this and when the opportunity arose I acquired what I thought might be a lifetime batch, 40G. It lasted me 10 years, only smoking with close friends on special occasions and smoking by myself as well. I was not research savvy at the time and assumed this was DMT but it was surely 5-MEO which is very different while still the same. I never understood the difference until this past year. Uncanny features of the 5-MEO was how bad it smelled like mouthballs in its molecular form and also once smoked. You could smell it in the room the next day. I had to isolate the bong I used in a rubbermaid as it smelled incredibly strong. I would break up the crystal and my hand would stink for a day as well. This smell always stayed with me. There was not much take-away from the trips but they sure were mind expanding to say the least. One time I was sure I discovered the meaning to life and then lost it upon re-entry.
I came upon a batch of 10G Mimosa given to me 3 years ago. It had been a long time since the 5-MEO and I considered it the same substance. It smelled the same but resembled what you see on this forum as a crude bright orange crumble extract. I had not found the Nexus yet and did not understand extraction. Now that I do I would always choose to smoke something I have made and not given. But I was lucky, this stuff was on another level. Given what I knew about my hundreds of 5-MEO experiences I was tentative to try it. Life was different I had grown up and had kids and many more obligations and stresses from work. It took me a while to find the right time, but it came one night when I could not get my brain to shut up, I was driving myself crazy contemplating all the stresses of life. I made a bold choice at about 1am when I knew I would not sleep and blasted off. Hard. This batch is all OEV transporting me to a spiritual realm. No cyberspace, no entities it is the spirit land no question. I heard unearthly languages on my strongest trip chanting to me in monotonic layers of pitch. The colors are always electric in quality. I have a guide I am mentally communicating with on most trips. Things are mind blowing and when I come to all my questions are answered simply. Physically my heart and breathing has come to the slow state of what one would obtain in deep meditation. 3 breaths per second. Light breaths. I have never been able to meditate. I will dig into the health benefits from crude extract I have discovered on another post to follow, I am convinced that DMT is medicine for the body and soul in a way not many will ever know. But not the pure stuff. It has to be the full extract IMO.
This first trip was spectacular. Colorful machine like matrix. Floating cinematic perspectives. No consciuosness of self. When I came to, the inner chirping started again with my problems and inner monologue sounding up. I made a joke to myself "We gotta choak this guy" referring to my inner monologue, he was irritating the heck out of me during one of the most amazing trips I ever had. I told a few people this story and my friend laughed and told me this is buddhism. "The Atman" (the watcher and the greater self) was annoyed by the constant chattering of the "monkey mind". That was me I was him.
So I started smoking alot. I mean alot. One or two break thru's a night, most nights. It was the summer I felt alive. It started off with 70-80MG hits ( I would not advice this of anything pure like white fluff) and I worked my way up to some 150MG hits that were not entirely consumed. It akes more of the crude extract to balst off then the pure molecule. This stuff melted just like the old 5-MEO. You had to hit it hard and hot or it would slip thru any screen or even MJ sandwich buffer. I have a very special setup with a bong slide that has charcoal filters on top and bottom that allows a torch to vaporize the contents at medium heat. It is super effective. Large hits are the key to break thru's and this bong setup is it. Some got lost on these mega doses and my hardest trip came from clearing out the resin left with a ton of torch hits. I did not expect it. I heard the chants and went one million miles below our existence and kept going deeper and deeper. I knew not to breath. Minutes seem like hours and it felt like I no linger needed oxygen. I held my breath subconsciously going so far into things it was life changing. I finally took a breath and came up the one million miles in one second and came back into my body. That was the hardest trip I ever took. This batch of DMT sometimes feels like someone cut open a fiberoptic cable and sprayed me with so much information in such a short time that it is impossible to retain. But I later realized you do retain, it does come back. DMT has strengthened my DNA I am positive. THEY have probed my brain and extracted information from me as well but that is another story.
Life had been hard, this ended up being my therapy in so many indescribable ways. The matrix i saw in the beginning was machine like. One time I asked it a question as everything was so beautiful. I had been doing a photogrohy assignement and asked it on my way in how to light things properly. It showed me the most beautiful lighting of a machine matrix and answered my question. This progressed into passing thru "the gate". I saw monkey dolls that were statues, they were the gatekeepers. They were statues with only their eyes that showed life. Cinematic scroll down of their bodies that were also machines in the matrix. Electro-colors. Past this my break thus where all in the spirit realm. I would do these hits as medicine to very hard and un-winnable days. Life is like that, not all days are good and my days had been terrible. This stash was medicine. I di not need set and sitting I was messed up from life and this batch fixerd me. These hits would clear my mind and alleviate my stress, I was so grateful to DMT for that, more grateful then I have ever been for anything. I always stayed humble in its precence. The most beatiful trip I took had ancient images portrayed in electric neon green and pink light emerging from the ground. The green would float upwards and the pink would float and melt into my body. Everytime the pink energy entered me it healed me, and it was succesional. It kept hitting me and healing me and I said "you don't need to help me I am here as a student and a pupil" as I felt as if pitty was taken on me. I have never asked for help from anyone. THEY said "We are not doing anything you just need to love yourself". And they were right. I had been beating myself up over things I could not prevent. THEY are always right. On this trip I came to, and was in my room but it was the Aurora Borealis 100%. Neon blues and greens floating in the air like clouds. It was more spectacular then anything I have seen in hundreds of trips. And the healing power was undeniable. I get emotional thinking of what THEY gave me on this trip.
I started running out of this stash and became worried. 2G's left maybe. My friend turned me on to the Nexus and offered me Gordo-tek. This tek works good but produced a very pure white fluff that did not smell, taste or resemble what I was accustommed to. I was confused. I started smoking it with some worry of how far off I was from what I was used to. Keep in mind I still did not understand fully that my Holy Grail stash was not 5-MEO even though it smelled so strongly of it. It was Mimosa as far as I later learned, but I was confused. Why was Gordo-tek giving me something that did not smell strongly or look the same color? My trips sucked in comparisson. Cyberspace, alone, no meditative breathing no spirits no nothing. White fluff IMO 2 out of 10. It did not compare even closely to the batch I had. I started to get real worried. What if I could not produce what I thought was DMT that had done so much for me? I had blown through 10G of something I would give anything for un-knowingly. I felt desperate.
I tried many teks. I read Shaggy-tek and there was a quote about how the full extract with the bright orange color was the magical extract. I thought this was the answer but this was just the beginning. I did some Shaggy-tek and liked the smell and look. My Holy Grail stash is bright yellow/orange and stinks even after being only in a jar at room temp for years. I will post pics in later threads but it will look like any other crude extract. I started producing some things that were bright yellow and stunk if you walked in the room. But this tek was evaporation. I do not recomend evaporation you must crash out, evaporation in this case with Thoraine was gross. I had spirits shaking jars at me telling me I was doing it wrong on high doses. There were impurities. I was confused. And getting very nervous I was about to lose something special.
I tested. Naptha vs Hepthane, A/B, S/T/B all against each other. Different barks you name it. I was convinced there was a recipe I was missing. How in the world is my stash so special and I cannot re-formaulte it? It literally drove me nuts. Testing in a frantic frenzy all with not even close to the results I was looking for... I consumed impurities and am sure of it. I will post a very safe tek outlining what NOT to do, from mistakes I have made. Micro emulsions are real, and even 1/100th of a mg of impurity will mess you up, trust me, with it especially noticable on my preferred high doses.
At this point I am submersed in my own world. I really have no one to relate to on what I am going through, losing the most sacred thing I have ever found, and am bugging. I reached out. Friend of a friend. Was surprised they responded but this is what he said : " this was made from generations old Purple Mimosa trees in Brazil, and extracted in Brazil. The extrator had died and his mentor had disappeared. It was S/T/B they flipped large jars every couple hours. Lye. Buchner funnel, Naptha" that was it. I had more questions but these were all the answers that I could get. At this point I am Indianna Jones looking for the lost Grail by myself. I had to theorize these points of extraction:
- Brazil, in the jungle, low natural heat to extract
- "Flip Jars" slow process
- S/T/B = Crude extract (possible natural MAOI extraction)
- Naptha
And I tested. On myself. With much dissapointment. I tested so quickly that I consumed toxins from what I believe could have been micro emulsions of lye and trapped contaminants of solvents. I will post on this another time. At one point I high dosed and immedailty said "this is not it" and got in a squable with DMT as THEY said this was it, but it was not. I felt as though I had lost a loved one. What if I could not get back to what I knew as the ultimate journey? On one of my last trips on the Holy Grail stash a white goddess came to me, all in shades of white and started blessing me again with the pink energy. It was everything I ever wanted and I cried knowing I would lose her. I am going to tell you right now it is the bark. I reached out to the guy and he said "Yes it is the bark" . This bark is so magical and so spiritual it is the difference. It smells like MEO but is Mimosa. It was said to come form generation old trees. It is my theory and my theory alone, that old Mimosa trees have the potential to produce small amounts of 5-MEO with the N NDMT that is normally extracted. Has to be low heat no acid, STB. 69Ron said on some very old posts that 5-MEO may be in more things than we know as it is very finicky to extract and lost in the process of extraction most times. This additive plus the crude extract of MAOI's proves to be unsurpassed in my experience. I have refined my crude extract to what I believe the Brazilians acheived and have still fallen short. I have sensed turmoil in barks I questioned as not sustainably sourced, the spirit of the tree was not there or not positive. In some Mexican bark it was all turmoil on high doses, I knew something bad had been done to this tree.
Here are my theories:
- Naptha is the most conducive solvent to "Full Spectrum" extracts that involve naturally occurring MAOI's in the tree. Full Spectrum refers to all the alkaloids the tree is giving in conjunction with the DMT molecule that help in its metabolizing. I have had some skeptisism about my term "full spectrum" on this forum. Read this link and you will understand fully of the Synergy of full spectrum:
Seeds of Knowledge: Herbal Education and Awareness
Learn more about herbs, natural health, and how Gaia Herbs works to create products to support your health journey.
www.gaiaherbs.com
- S/T/B low heat gives you the brightest and most pungent crude extract containing these MAOI's. This is based on my tests.
- The bark used is crucial. Mass harvested bark by new trees on the web will not give you the same trip as what I have experienced. I am very sure of this.
I am sometimes curious as to why there is not more discussion on why people value some teks over others. There is not much talk about the quality of the trip or physical health benefits. One of my favorite posts came from an Australian that is labeled "sticky" on the Changa page. Chocobeastie. I like this guy. He claimed his "plant head" friends could decipher between Mimosa and Acacia and people scoffed at him. I would not be able to decipher pure white fluff from various trees but can surely see huge differences in Acacia vs Mimosa as well as Purple Mimosa in my crude extract process. The Purple Mimosa for example would give me a different set of color visuals all in reds and purples. Some barks have more entities in my trips. Some are more cyberspace, some are more spiritual. I am curious about others opinions on this subject as this is what I value in my extract process, with the goal always to achieve the Holy Grail status of my original batch of crude extract.
I have reached a point where I am very confident in my crude extract process and will post it on another thread. You have to be careful with any process that can trap contaminants such as lye or solvent, the crude extract being a part of this with its crumbly form. One time i accidentally pressurized a jar during precipitation of some white fluff with some heptane and produced the most potent diamonds there could be, they were strong and pure I thought. I had been mixing them into some weak changa for a week and having amazing blast offs, going just as deep maybe as my Holy Grail stash just in a different way. Well one of them diamonds must have been holding something real bad, as one night I hit them and the start of my trip was a noisy overwhelming static with a volume of 10. It scarred the crap out of me and as I went into the trip the static climbed instontaneously to a level I was sure was frying my brain. I said goodbye to my kids in my head and went under, I was sure I was fried. I awoke knealing on the floor beside the bed I had started out on. I was under for maybe 15 minutes I would guess. I could not believe I was back but i was dizzy and still tripping super hard. It was actually a nightmare and gave me quite a bit of PTSD. For the next hour i rolled back and forth in bed trying to get my head right, banging on my head periodically with my fists. The next day I was still dizzy and felt like something terrible had happpened to me. This inspired me to investigate everything I could to make my extracts contaminant free and I have some tricks now and am better off for the loss I took. These will all be posted in my tek later to come.
So the bad news is that I am not sure I will ever find bark as sacred as the bark I loved so much. I would bet my life there are trace amounts of 5-MEO in this old Mimosa tree bark. One thing that baffles me about my Holy Grail stash is how deep I go and how quickly I come back. I have been back to reality in a short ten minutes after even the hardest trips I have taken. 5-MEO is the only answer I can come up with for this. MAOI's make you trip longer and the crude extracts I am making now usually have me peak for 5-10 minutes with after effects lasting another 20 minutes. This makes no sense to me as the Holy Grail stash is so much shorter and more intense but like I said I believe there is 5-MEO present. How else could this stuff still stink so heavily after years and years of me opening the jar? You can read my "20 year old 5-MEO" post on a past thread where I found some old 5-MEO my friend had in a cigerette celefane in a barn that was literally 20 years old. The stuff still stinked like I remembered. I had given it to him that long ago. That is how strong 5-MEO is, it still smelled pungent with no jar or any protection from summer and winter 20 years later. There is not much on this planet that can do that and not break down, that is the power of 5-MEO.
So if there is any silver lining for anyone as bummed as me about my story or maybe not having the best bark, it is this. With the combination of herbs or Changa mixes, you can acheive spiritual break thrus even if using a pure NDMT white fluff or crystal. Herbs like Damiana have plenty of spirit in them. My second hardest trip I ever took was not my Holy Grail stash it was Damiana and the diamonds before I threw my diamonds out. I saw a beaken of light revolving around in revolution similar to a light tower, with 80 million shades of lime green. I counted them. It was unreal. I have some awesome Changa teks I will also share on a seperate Changa post as I have been experimenting with different herbs, they are wonderful.
So that is my story that I have been alone with for the past year. It has been a quest with triumphs and fails, and I still worry that once my Grail stash is gone I might never have the same experiences again, but I am ok with that I guess with what I have learned. I only smoke it now every few months it is my prize possesion. I am thinking about possibly sending a sample of what I have left to drugsdata.org as they do testing and might be able to determine if there really is 5-MEO in my stash as I believe. And what I have learned is that I am not interested in pure white crystals. I give them a 2/10 compared to full spectrum, they just don't interest me. I have read many amazing stories on this forum and do wonder if this is a personal preference of mine, as people generally do not describe what they are smoking when discussing their experiences. For me that is always the first question that comes to mind: what is in your spice?
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