Infundibulum said:
SWIM says the mescaline was indeed mescaline - 0.5g from the same batch produce decent effects. As for the seeds, they came from a backyard grown Datura stramonium plant. The plant was identified as datura stramonium by a really trusted certified botanist. The seeds were almost a year old, SWIM does not know if they had gone bad. They did had an effect however, the negative diminished effect.
There are bound to be people with different reactions to everything there is. That’s human nature.
I don’t know if old seeds would be any different. SWIM has never noticed any difference between fresh or old seeds. I doubt age had anything to do with it. It’s more likely SWIYs personal metabolism at play here.
Some people are very sensitive to these seeds. Maybe SWIY is one of them. That could explain the unusual reaction.
How do the same seeds effect SWIY if taken on their own at the same dosage?
Infundibulum said:
SWIM is wondering how many people have tried the combo (extracted mescaline datura seeds) and how many felt the potentiation. SWIM thinks that not som many people have reported the combo - he remembers another one however that did not find the combo amazing.
Yes, one other person, who was apparently very sensitive to the seeds did not enjoy the experience. If the seed dosage is too high, the effect is not at all the same. He also took a large dose of mescaline. I know of about 20 people who've tried this combination and enjoyed it very much. Most used very low doses of mescaline, not 500 mg.
You want to try using the seeds on their own first. Try to find a dosage that only causes slight stimulation, slight euphoria, and an unusual feeling in the stomach for about 1 hour or so. If you feel dry mouth, blurred vision, mental effects of any kind, or any other effects other than what I’ve mention earlier, then the seed dosage is way too high.
When mixing with mescaline, use a small dose of mescaline. 500 mg sounds like too much mescaline.
Infundibulum said:
Does SWIY have a reliable reference for the traditional mix of cactus with tropanes by the shamans? Which tropane sources they use? Which tropanes are involved? At which ratios do they mix them?
Yes. Several books I have talk about mixing San Pedro with Brugmansia. This is a classic combination. I don’t recall the ratio of San Pedro to Brugmansia though. The drink from this combination is called Cimora.
