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the never ending story

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hmm, not sure what the point of this is..but oh well I can always find space to tell a story or two..

The never ending story is a very special movie to me. I once took a large handful of mushrooms and 3 faeries came to me in the dark, and began to sing to me about my place on this earth, about our current situation and what it is that needs to be done.

Our world is dying..idealistically..our children have no conception of the sacred anymore becasue WE choose to not speak it. Our stories, our myths..the great metaphors that once instilled a sense of beauty and wonder in the hearts of children everywhere as they listened to these myths..they have all dried up..

Where are the bards? the storytellers? All we have are lame school teachers who tell you its all a big accident, nothing is special..not ever EVERYTHING!..

What has happened to us? has our language really grown that stale? Have we really lost that ability to communicate the sacredness of everything through a simple myth, a story that tells the untellable through the eloquent use of metaphore we once posessed?

Science is failing our children..not due to it's lack of objective analysis, or of some inability to provide useful insights into the machanics of nature..but becasue it lacks the eloquence of the metaphore..the simplistic beauty of the analogy that runs so deep, tying together all of the cosmos at its core..

Life is a huge fu#*ing mystery, life is beautiful, and life is sacred. Everything is sacred..somewhere along the way we just stopped tell that story..and so, it's being forgotten..collecting more and more dust as it sits back on some unseen shelf off in some storage room where only few tend to wander these days...

Oh yes, and these faeries..they told me that the never ending story was the anology of that crisis.

*edit*..maybe it is a class pipe..who knows maybe bastien was smoking spice and dreamed it all:d
 
Blatant crack smokin' going on. Those 1980's kids eh? :)

Good post fractal - if I'm ever lucky enough to have kids I will encourage they seek that beauty and wonder.

Have to say I dont agree with the faeries about science failing us. Personally I find a new development in physics or a new hubble picture more mysterious, humbling and awe inspiring than any metaphor, but I think I know what those faeries were getting at. Going to have to watch that movie again now...
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The way I understand it is that, in the 17th century, the Age of Enlightenment came along. An attempt to build a rational world, there was a clear and certain desire to banish superstition, the power it held over humanity, and remove the perceived stranglehold it had on human growth and development. Reason would strip the snakeoil salesmen and bishops and witches of their authority, and humankind would be free.

The great works of the Enlightenment - Jefferson's Bible, Principia Mathematica, Discourse on the Method, amongst others - stand as a testament to free future generations with the rigour of pure logic.

But upon these noble aspirations the soul of Man was dashed; we lost something intrinsically human in the process. And as Newton's clockwork universe has since proved an inadequate model to explain the weirdness of quantum reality, we have lost the language and thinking that allows us to accept uncertainty, wonder and magic.

I think about the relatively recent discovery of fractal geometry; despite its now obvious primacy in Nature, this underlying structure was completely ignored for hundreds of years, as we ignored the intrinsic geometry of trees, clouds, coastlines and mountains, because it didn't fit the reductionist model that has guided human development sicne the Enlightenment. I believe we are in the same position now, ignoring the reality of human experience in favour of theoretical models that are simply not adequate ... a redeveloped sense of wonder and appreciation of the fundamentals of human experience are needed to redress the balance.

And yes - it's definitely a meth pipe; the kids studying one of ron69's extraction teks in the book, because they didn't have the internet back then ...
 
fractal enchantment said:
The thing is that science is only half the story..it's when we assume it tells the whole tale that we fail ourselves.
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Fractal Enchantment

Beautifully said...

The Never Ending Story was an incredible movie that touched me in a really big way when I was small.


Much Peace and Compassion
 
1664 said:
Have to say I dont agree with the faeries about science failing us. Personally I find a new development in physics or a new hubble picture more mysterious, humbling and awe inspiring than any metaphor, but I think I know what those faeries were getting at.
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Ahh, but how do we desribe those pictures that Hubble shows us? With Metaphor!

Crab Nebula
Horsehead Nebula
Cat's Eye Nebula
Sombrero Galaxy

They are intertwined...it is the metaphor that humbles you, not the technology! 😉

fractal enchantment said:
The thing is that science is only half the story..it's when we assume it tells the whole tale that we fail ourselves.
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Science is the paper on which the words are written.
 
88 said:
The way I understand it is that, in the 17th century, the Age of Enlightenment came along. An attempt to build a rational world, there was a clear and certain desire to banish superstition, the power it held over humanity, and remove the perceived stranglehold it had on human growth and development. Reason would strip the snakeoil salesmen and bishops and witches of their authority, and humankind would be free.

The great works of the Enlightenment - Jefferson's Bible, Principia Mathematica, Discourse on the Method, amongst others - stand as a testament to free future generations with the rigour of pure logic.

But upon these noble aspirations the soul of Man was dashed; we lost something intrinsically human in the process. And as Newton's clockwork universe has since proved an inadequate model to explain the weirdness of quantum reality, we have lost the language and thinking that allows us to accept uncertainty, wonder and magic.

I think about the relatively recent discovery of fractal geometry; despite its now obvious primacy in Nature, this underlying structure was completely ignored for hundreds of years, as we ignored the intrinsic geometry of trees, clouds, coastlines and mountains, because it didn't fit the reductionist model that has guided human development sicne the Enlightenment. I believe we are in the same position now, ignoring the reality of human experience in favour of theoretical models that are simply not adequate ... a redeveloped sense of wonder and appreciation of the fundamentals of human experience are needed to redress the balance.

And yes - it's definitely a meth pipe; the kids studying one of ron69's extraction teks in the book, because they didn't have the internet back then ...
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Well said, I agree completely. Have you read any Ken Wilbur? His book A Brief History of Everything explains this quite well.

And just for the record, it is the candle snuffer he uses...but I certainly like the 69ron analogy! :lol:
 
For those who appreciated the movie, but haven't read the book: give yourself a favor and read the book. :)

It's far superior and at least twice as long. The movie finishes when Bastien gives a new name to the Childlike Empress, but in the book, the story continues: Bastien becomes a sort of creator God in Fantasia and has to learn to live with the responsibility of "Do what you wish"... There are beautiful jewels of wisdom in that book.
 
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