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The *Official* YouTube / DMT Discussion Thread

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Tony,

I'm glad the subtlety of my message wasn't lost on you. I wish you Godspeed in your travels.

To be clear, this complaint of yours about flagging videos was not an isolated occurrence. You've gone on record many times with your opinions on the matter. You find us all to be fascist censors and this is certainly your call. I invite you to seek out a more democratic gathering of folks who don't so offend your sensibilities.

The YouTube policy has been clearly laid out by our gracious host ad nauseum. So, like it or lump it. We're all his guests. Go forth and set up your own forum.
 
In long term it wasn't a good idea to censor the videos. You can't learn a lesson when ignoring/censoring the "errors" from which to learn.
In short term it instantly reduces any pressure on the subject..
 
I'm with Tony, and I would guess that this thread is not the sole reason for his leaving. Also, I would appreciate it if someone with the power to do so would rename this thread so that its title no longer gives the impression that open discussion and alternate viewpoints are welcome here. How about "Youtube DMT Videos To Flag Down"?

Thanks in advance.
 
I haven't read all the posts I got the idea to check it out and got distracted. Most of the vids of links in the early posts of this thread were removed. BUT apparently they now can post this stuff if they have an age appropriate sign in.
 
I dunno what you guys think but this bothers me. The comments on this video are almost all incorrect. I dont know if we should flag all the comments that are ridiculous or what but theres a lot of bad info that these guys are spreading. One comment describing how to extract on page 2 of comments...

The process is pretty basic. Just need the proper barks which can be ordered. Naphtha and a mason jar ect. Ect It isnt illegal until its been extracted. Done right you will get around 1/100 dmt to bark ratio. Not a party drug. L is fun but this a life changing experience.spiritual. dmt releases naturally twice in a humans life in very large doses... birth and death. So realize this is not just a "drug". Respect it
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Theres a lot of comments though, so I almost feel like we should msg the uploader to remove the comments or something, i dunno what do you guys think? Its a stupid song too


And this one titled Ayahuasca Recipe: Easy Recipe To Make Ayahuasca

It looks like they are also advertising to buy products to make aya from there website.
 
^Nothing particularly wrong with that. Just a tune about DMT. And its not the uploaders fault for people's lack of knowledge. Many of them probably came straight from a Joe Rogan video, so you can't blame 'em ;)

This guy, how ever, Adam Kokesh - who is some sort of libertarian activist, not only advocates smoking DMT, but also the purchase via silk road, and also films himself smoking it (inefficiently :? ) - so flag away!





 
The sheer idiocy of some of these videos astounds me. Solar Jetman, I would say that is definitely worth a flag. Seems like a bit of a losing battle here though.
 

"I've spent so much time attacking DMT-Nexus, they need to show their faces on their avatars. They need to be braver, they need to be more open. Because with DMT, we see faces, because with DMT we realize human liberation is a journey through fear."
 
Like most of you I do have a problem with seeing the irresponsible use of DMT in videos, such as kids posting "hey look at me get fucked up woohoo!" kinds of vids (that kind of publicity is what got salvia banned in many states). Though that being said DMT is already illegal. And the kids posting are typically teens and teens are usually stupid. There are all sorts of vids with dumb kids irresponsibly doing something. DMT is just one of those things.

I don't really have much of a problem with those vids getting flagged. Though what I would typically do is send a personal message to explain why the video should be taken down. Because at least you can communicate with that person, rather than just flagging it. And I do have a problem with most YouTube recipe guides as I do feel the extraction of DMT should be well researched and not just cobbled together from a YouTube vid, a poor understanding can be dangerous. Though that being said this is the Internet and finding a recipe for DMT is not hard at all. So I don't think responsible guides should be flagged.

Gratuitious flagging campaigns do bother me. As I do think there are good videos out there. I don't think a witch hunt to rid YouTube of DMT videos is called for. There are some good videos out there that are both responsible and informative, there are trip reports with a "what you can expect" attitude that can help inform the uninitiated. Not all YouTube videos on DMT are bad, even some of those actively smoking are good that contain comprehensive trip reports. Personally I think flagging all pro-DMT videos (as some on here are advocating) is quite childish especially coming from a pro-DMT community.

I have read many posts here that seem quite snobbish and elitist when it comes to DMT. Like DMT is the holy grail of psychedelics and to a degree I quite understand that ideology, I feel about the same way when it comes to how special DMT is. What I don't feel however is that DMT discussion needs to be hidden or monopolized by this particular website.

First off all DMT is already illegal. The DEA already knows about it and I'm sure they know about this website. The cat is out of the bag and I don't think it's going to get caught again. Many people seem to be afraid of DMT going "mainstream" but I hate to break the news, it's already there and that's a good thing. Don't we want this community to grow. Whether people inform themselves about DMT from this website or YouTube doesn't matter. This issue is making sure a responsible message gets across and we should facilitate safe use of this drug. We also shouldn't engage in cowardly flagging campaigns to hide something that can't be hidden, nor should it be. DMT is a gift to this world. We need to help people understand it, in a kind way. Infringing on someone's freedom of expression (ie flagging a YouTube vid) is not that. It's cowardly.

My issue with this is the snobbery and pretentiousness coming from this great community. It's an immature childish reaction, not productive in the least. DMT is a gift and those experienced are facilitators to help those who want to explore this curious molecule. To try to hid it is an act of cowardice, the reason people want to hide it is because the want to "the guy" who knows about it. The cool kid. The connection. Its an ego trip. A control freak mentality. The metaphor I would use is someone who loves an underground band who desperately doesn't want them to go mainstream. Why? If the band is so awesome why don't you want people to hear? - Peace
 
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