The role of multiple boils in DMT/MHRB extractions

[Shaolin]

As I understand the heat has two roles.

1. Catalyst in a way, speeding up the reaction (migration of DMT alkaloids in the acidic solution)
2. Energy that helps breaking down plant material

All good but my question is why do people recommend three boils ?

I presume that 10 volume H20 (10g MHRB, 100ml of H20, 100g MHRB, 1000ml of H20, ...) can efficiently hold all the DMT salts (after all it's usually boiled down 3x ).

I have read that multiple boils do increase they yields but has anyone done a real comparison or is this a "conventional wisdom" ?

Thank you.

 

[gibran2]

The source of the contamination is either the bark itself (unlikely)

Do not think so. Any plant matter contains a wide array of substances some of which end up in your product, unless we use chromatography.

For example, if I apply very wide pH range during an extraction, many substances will be converted to base. Some of them may be marginally soluble in the NPS we use. Therefore, we will have them in the final product even if we use freeze-precip.

Well now I’m curious. What do you imagine the contaminants might be in very white spice? Are there any colorless alkaloids or other substances that can be pulled from MHRB other than DMT? And would these contaminants form crystals that are identical or very similar to DMT freeze-precip. crystals?

 

[pau]

Good comments here about boiling powdered MHRB, but what are peoples' thoughts on boiling time for powdered caapi? It can be hammered just paritally to break up and soften those really big chunks, and then processed into dust using a strong blender. Sure, it's not authentically Amazonian, but then, one would think creating all that surface area is a perfectly acceptable technological improvement.

Some comments here suggest that maybe just shorter soaking in hot acidified water could work well. But there is indeed lots more "sludge" (actually loads more) when caapi is processed this way...and maybe that sludge is loaded with good stuff you wouldn't want to waste?