The ultimate question

[the middle man]

What is real?
Real is 'what is' and not real is 'what isn't'.
Imagination is real. Dreams are real. Hyperspace is real. The physical world is real. All of these realities co-exist and are connected in different ways. Everything that exists is real, some things just exist in different dimensions within the same space.
However this is a limited understanding based on the perceptual filter of words.

 

[3rdI]

My Rolex isn't real

 

[endlessness]

A pragmatic approach: What is "real", and when is it actually useful to ask this? - Philosophy - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

 

[Global]

A pragmatic approach: What is "real", and when is it actually useful to ask this? - Philosophy - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

ah, you beat me to it endless :thumb_up:

 

[tele]

I guess one could ask what isn't real:?

 

[WEM]

Every time I hear someone ask that question or one similar to it I can't help but think of this movie quote.

 

[luciernaga]

REALITY is what u think @ the time is real. sorry, i know my answer is vague, but is what i find helpful...don't forget everything has a purpose, and we are part of everything, reality is so different from every people...this world is real but i know there are other dimensions/eras/times that are real too, and once i'm there for me is real too.

:thumb_up:

 

[brokin]

Before you wake up from a dream, you don't really realize it's a dream.It seems perfectly real.

Your daily social hysteria sure as hell isn't real, it's construction.
How can we know if something is real?When we get results based on what we believe?
Why don't you change your beliefs for a week and see the result...

Are we real, are we a reflection?We are not ego.

Really this is a catastrophic question which only confuses me to death.Makes me think of all kind of theory's which I ever heard about.

 

[a1pha]

Revised "Ultimate Question": Does it matter?

Irregardless of my Internet bill being real or not: it needs to be paid or I cannot type on the DMT-Nexus.

 

[Korey]

Revised "Ultimate Question": Does it matter?

Irregardless of my Internet bill being real or not: it needs to be paid or I cannot type on the DMT-Nexus.

This.

Feed your animals people, they're real.

 

[Tek]

Real is a word in the English language. Not much else can be factually said about it.

 

[Guyomech]

It's different for everyone. So we have our personal realities, which differ widely from person to person, and even from day to day or moment to moment (your stated beliefs may shift with your moods). So as far as personal reality goes, real is what you believe. Anyone who believes something different from you is obviously nuts.

Then there's consensus reality: the shared game board we all interact on. It's basic and elemental enough that we can coexist in it, even if our feelings about it differ. And although the human interpretation of the universe around us- 3D, linear time, light/color/sound/space/gravity etc... That may be a sort of arbitrary interpretation of the world, but all humans have this more or less in common. This allows us to mostly live together in a mostly functional attempt at civilization.

Crazy people- the ones that can't function, and are living in institutions or under bridges- have personal realities that are so far from the average that they don't overlap the common territory of consensus reality enough to partake of its activities.

 

[Electric Kool-Aid]

You can also make your realities. Doing something like bungee jumping makes it from a fear and far from a reality, to a reality once you harness up and take that leap...

Another reality which no one mentioned is art and music. You are taking an idea or feeling from thin air and constructing a reality from nothing. A true beauty it is...

 

[○]

EVERYTHING..neither real nor non-real. It's all appearance.

 

[soulthatcreates]

Revised "Ultimate Question": Does it matter?

Irregardless of my Internet bill being real or not: it needs to be paid or I cannot type on the DMT-Nexus.

Irregardless isn't a real word.

 

[Eliyahu]

In my opinion, there are two main classifications of reality.

There is subjective and objective reality.

A1pha's Internet bill is a good example of objective reality.

The dream I had where I went to the amusement park fun house wearing parachute pants on my head, while real to me..it was an example of subjective reality

A particular Vedic saying comes to mind...

"Everything is as it is"

I take this to mean everything in the universe exists completely independent of our own individual subjective interpretation of it as human beings....

For example when a regular everyday sort of person looks at a Tree, they see exactly that. A regular person will see a tree as only a tree because they have no information that it could be anything more than that available to them..

On the other hand a person on LSD might see a tree as a kind, and intelligent living organism, glowing with inner light, interconnected energetically with the other "trees" in the forest and also existing as an efficient marvel of photosynthesis.

Both of the above perceptions of the tree is correct. But which one is more correct? Obviously the person on LSD does a better job of describing what a tree really is...but why is that?

Could this be because psychedelics drastically impair the brains's tendency to act as a habitual perception filter???? Aldous Huxley thought so he referred to this action of filtering as the "Cerebral reducing valve", according to him psychedelics can help to open that valve up so the information can begin flowing and we can start to see thing as they truly are instead of how we assume them to be.

 

[Global]

Revised "Ultimate Question": Does it matter?

Irregardless of my Internet bill being real or not: it needs to be paid or I cannot type on the DMT-Nexus.

Irregardless isn't a real word.

Irregardless is a real word, however you just don't look smart/learned when you use it. It's a common misconception that it's not a word, but it means the same thing as regardless.

 

[Tek]

I like the example of an mmorpg for a pretty good synopsis of what's going on. Let's use World of Warcraft as an example.

In WoW you have certain choices you make before you start the game. You choose your race, gender, and main class, then you start in one of the main starting cities. There you start your subjective experience of that reality.

Meanwhile, the world of Azeroth has its own 'objective' existence. It has certain rules of physics which applies to all characters regardless of race, class, or character history. This is the objective reality of the game experience, where every character sees and experiences the same game world.

So as a character, you might do quest x and quest y, but another character might do quest w and quest v, so your character histories are essentially different. No one has the exact same character in the game experience and no player has the exact same experience of playing the game. It's subjective while we play.

This is a pretty decent understanding imo of what life on Earth is like; how it is both objective and subjective at the same time.

 

[tele]

Revised "Ultimate Question": Does it matter?

Irregardless of my Internet bill being real or not: it needs to be paid or I cannot type on the DMT-Nexus.

Irregardless isn't a real word.

Irregardless is a real word, however you just don't look smart/learned when you use it. It's a common misconception that it's not a word, but it means the same thing as regardless.

U so smart irregardless!!1:lol: :thumb_up:

 

[clouds]

What is real?
Real is 'what is' and not real is 'what isn't'.
Imagination is real. Dreams are real. Hyperspace is real. The physical world is real. All of these realities co-exist and are connected in different ways. Everything that exists is real, some things just exist in different dimensions within the same space.
However this is a limited understanding based on the perceptual filter of words.

I completely agree with you.