soma_seeker
Rising Star
Hi Nexus,
So my friend's neighbor's garden gnome recently performed his first Syrian Rue extract (after having failed extracting some very mediocre aya vine) and today he decided to trial the product.
He dosed 210mg and went to work purifying some mescaline from another project. He was seated for around twenty minutes and then rose to his feet to fetch an instrument for the work. Immediately he felt a strong sensation of imbalance and general disorientation. He had expected the experience to be more or less benign, and was really only expecting potential problems with nausea and/or diarrhoea. The feeling he was experiencing twenty minutes in definitely changed his mind...
Within another 15 minutes walking had become significantly different, and was somewhat forced to retire to the sofa and watch some tv for distraction. Any time spent in a position other than laying down caused dizzyness, vertigo and a sharp increase in nausea.
By the second hour the experience strengthened again considerably. His nausea had increased, as had his disorientation. He decided he best make his way to the bathroom and induce vomiting, so as to try and help the nausea. The ten metre walk was very difficulty, and the motion caused him to vomit upon reaching the toilet. He emptied his stomach and then continued to painfully dry-reach for several minutes. He then noticed that he had broken into a thick cold-sweat, and was experiencing slight trembling through his arms.
He then retired (with CONSIDERABLE effort) to his bed, where he lay awake either watching television or resting in silence for the next four hours. He began to feel better once on his back, but was left with an almost complete inability to move. Another interesting effect was that he had difficulty determining the origin of sounds - for example sounds from the tv were often mistaken for events occuring from the opposite direction.
Six hours after dosing (present time whilst writing this post) his nausea has all but gone and feels perfectly lucid. Whilst seated his vision is a little blurry and there is still a feeling of slight dis-ease in his head. Upon standing he still has significant trouble remaining on his feet, and even the smallest distances are difficult to navigate.
This individual has significant prior experience consuming ayahuasca, and as such did not predict any problems with this experience (except the general nausea). However, now he is very glad he trialed the extract before choosing to combine it with spice for a pharmahausca trip - if he had the experience would no doubt have been extremely unpleasant.
I suppose the obvious conclusion is that he has a high sensitivity towards harmalas (despite not necessarily having determined this through prior ayahuasca consumption). The question now is what will be an appropriate dosage for combining with spice?... Obviously he wants to ensure MAOI inhibition, but he definitely does not want to repeat a similar experience to this one.
He was thinking that perhaps another trial with 100mg would be a good idea, despite the fact that people seem to generally require at least 150mg.
Can anyone share any similar experiences, or thoughts/suggestions?
Thanks a lot!!
peace..
So my friend's neighbor's garden gnome recently performed his first Syrian Rue extract (after having failed extracting some very mediocre aya vine) and today he decided to trial the product.
He dosed 210mg and went to work purifying some mescaline from another project. He was seated for around twenty minutes and then rose to his feet to fetch an instrument for the work. Immediately he felt a strong sensation of imbalance and general disorientation. He had expected the experience to be more or less benign, and was really only expecting potential problems with nausea and/or diarrhoea. The feeling he was experiencing twenty minutes in definitely changed his mind...
Within another 15 minutes walking had become significantly different, and was somewhat forced to retire to the sofa and watch some tv for distraction. Any time spent in a position other than laying down caused dizzyness, vertigo and a sharp increase in nausea.
By the second hour the experience strengthened again considerably. His nausea had increased, as had his disorientation. He decided he best make his way to the bathroom and induce vomiting, so as to try and help the nausea. The ten metre walk was very difficulty, and the motion caused him to vomit upon reaching the toilet. He emptied his stomach and then continued to painfully dry-reach for several minutes. He then noticed that he had broken into a thick cold-sweat, and was experiencing slight trembling through his arms.
He then retired (with CONSIDERABLE effort) to his bed, where he lay awake either watching television or resting in silence for the next four hours. He began to feel better once on his back, but was left with an almost complete inability to move. Another interesting effect was that he had difficulty determining the origin of sounds - for example sounds from the tv were often mistaken for events occuring from the opposite direction.
Six hours after dosing (present time whilst writing this post) his nausea has all but gone and feels perfectly lucid. Whilst seated his vision is a little blurry and there is still a feeling of slight dis-ease in his head. Upon standing he still has significant trouble remaining on his feet, and even the smallest distances are difficult to navigate.
This individual has significant prior experience consuming ayahuasca, and as such did not predict any problems with this experience (except the general nausea). However, now he is very glad he trialed the extract before choosing to combine it with spice for a pharmahausca trip - if he had the experience would no doubt have been extremely unpleasant.
I suppose the obvious conclusion is that he has a high sensitivity towards harmalas (despite not necessarily having determined this through prior ayahuasca consumption). The question now is what will be an appropriate dosage for combining with spice?... Obviously he wants to ensure MAOI inhibition, but he definitely does not want to repeat a similar experience to this one.
He was thinking that perhaps another trial with 100mg would be a good idea, despite the fact that people seem to generally require at least 150mg.
Can anyone share any similar experiences, or thoughts/suggestions?
Thanks a lot!!
peace..
