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[Trip Report] Computer Loop in the Cottage

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Bonné

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Drug
We had the choice between 25i-Nbome and 4-AcO-DMT. For some reason, we decided upon 25I-NBOME. I think this was due to the fact that everyone preferred 4-AcO-DMT, so we wanted to save it for the last day.
The road of administration used was sublingual, seeing as the 25i-Nbome was contained on traditional blotters. All blotters were HBPCD complexed as well, to increase potency and absorption.

Participants and Dosage
*Myself 3mg
*C 2.5mg
*M 2.5mg
*Rok 2mg
CK 0mg
Met 0mg

*Under the influence of 25i-Nbome

Mindset
We all skipped taking any drugs on the previous day, so we were all somewhat ready to experience a trip. One my our buddies was sitting over, as he had brought his girlfriend for the weekend. Another of our friends had recently lost his girlfriend and been through a quite hard time, so he wasn’t super keen on tripping while he went through this phase, but had agreed to nonetheless. The rest of us were all mentally ready and had no major anxieties prior to taking the drugs.

Setting
I contacted my grandmother 2 weeks prior to the experience and asked if I could burrow her cottage for the holiday weekend with some of my friends. She obviously agreed and prepared the entire home for our arrival, everything was basically taken care of. All we had to bring ourselves was food and clothes. The cottage itself is quite large and extremely cozy inside, so the setting was pretty much perfect. Especially seeing as we’re used to tripping outside at night and at old people’s apartments every once in a while.
We had all had a fabulous meal of salsa salat, pork tenderloin, cooked potatoes and garlic baguettes 1-2 hours prior to ingesting the blotters.

Trip Report
I started out by asking for everyone’s desired dosage and proceeded to administer the blotters to the 3 of my friends. CK had brought his girlfriend, Met, so he decided not to take any drugs with us, as she’s quite concerned for his health (He faints due to heart issues, which are linked to stress). None of us had any objections, as were simply just glad that someone decided to tripsit. I quickly placed my 3 blotters on my mouth and told the others that I would go take a shower while I was waiting. As I was leaving the room, I could tell the others were preparing to ingest their blotters as well.

I spent about 20 minutes in the shower before the warm water ran out and I was shocked by the cold. I quickly got out of the shower and started drying myself with a towel. I felt inside my mouth and was astonished by the tiny amount of saliva build up in there. I’m usually about to burst with saliva after 20 minutes of keeping a blotter in my mouth. I think it’s because I tend to think too much about it, rather than letting the chemical absorb. Taking a shower definitely helped this absorption process immensely.
Once I came back into the room with the others, they were already preparing to spit theirs out. I decided to wait another 10 minutes for full absorption to take place. Once I spat it all out, I started feeling slightly restless and had some nausea going on. When the come up really started and I began having the first signs of visuals, there was no way back, I had to go puke. The others also felt a little nauseous, but didn’t puke at all. I usually end up vomiting on every single psychedelic that we use, I don’t have a single clue as to why.

I could quickly feel that the effects of 3mg were comparatively more intense than that of 2mg. The highest dose any of us had done previously of 25i-Nbome was 2mg. Especially the visual aspects were quite powerful with this experience. Everything looked extremely 3D-ish and I both felt and saw how all the energy in the room circulated around. My vision consisted mostly of tracers, as everything in the room seemed to give off several hundred tracers in all angles. My friends also started looked extremely square and triangular, which gave them a very cartoonish look. This is typical whenever I take 25i-Nbome, but this time it was particularly prominent.
If I actually decided to look at the details in objects or zoom out my vision to contain the entire room, I was seeing infinite amounts of fractals. It looked as if the entire world consisted of these merging and transforming fractals. It was truly beautiful, thanks to the fact that fractals are so unbelievably perfect and intricate.

Near the peak of the trip I noticed a strange feeling between all of us. I had just put on my psychedelic playlist with over 200 videos and songs, which I had spent months preparing for this trip. After a single video, my friend Rok decided to turn it off and play GTA 5 instead. I didn’t say anything, as I felt slightly disrespected by the fact that he didn’t even bother about the rest of us or the hard work I put into it. This quickly split all of us a bit. Rok spent a long duration of his trip playing GTA 5 alone. C and M were talking about deep stuff and definitely felt like they were on the same wavelength. I was taking on the role of the passive observer, which I usually do on psychedelics. I usually have too many thoughts and sensations going on to actually be able to have a conversation with people, so that’s why I usually just prefer to observe the situation and continuously smile at everyone, to ease the experience for them.

Once Rok got tired of tripping alone, he decided to go to bed and explore the innerverse a bit. I decided to join him and laid down in my own bed next to him. We didn’t really talk much to each other, but I could definitely tell that we both enjoyed lying in bed immensely. After lying there for quite a while (20-60 minutes?), C and M entered the room looking for us and burst out laughing when they found both of us hiding from the light under our blankets. They were planning to go outside on a small adventure through the dark night. CK and Met had told them several times that they shouldn’t go too far away outsde, as they wouldn’t be able to find their way back. They obviously forgot everything that was being said to them just seconds later. I think they were desperately trying to get out, as they had been inside for the entire duration of the trip and probably just needed a fresh setting. I was on the verge of joining them in their adventure, but felt trapped under the cozy and warm blanket.

I probably laid in my bed another 15-20 minutes before I went to check up on the others. C and M had already left, so only CK and Met were in the living room. I decided to smoke a bong bowl and roll myself a joint. Shortly after I started roasting a cigarette for the joint, C called me and was being hysterical. They told me that they were completely lost, literally and mentally. It sounded like they were shitting themselves, so I took it very serious and went out to look for them. Their confused state made it incredibly hard to have a conversation with them, despite the fact that I really concentrated on understanding what they said and guiding them at the same time. They told me that they were at the end of the road and could see the sign saying Ålevej, but at the same time they said they had no clue where they were. I decided to walk to the end of the road and out to the main road, where you’d usually find the road sign. The moment I got to the end of the road, my phone lost all connection and the call was terminated. I was left in utter confusion, as I was 100% certain they were at the end of the road, except they weren’t. I tried to call them again, but I was unable to go through with the call. Thoughts of cross dimensional travel crossed my mind and I thought ”Oh shit” to myself. Some intensely euphoric sensations passed through my body as I came to this false realisation, only to have it all crumble as C called me back just a few seconds later. Apparently, they had went the completely opposite way from me. I decided to go back and look for them in the other direction, but they found home themselves a minute before I arrived back at the house. Once we got back, CK and Met went to bed, as they had already gone through 4g of hash and about 18 cans of beer.

We were all starting to come down a bit and the experience was slightly more relaxed at this point. C, M and myself all sat down at the fireplace and then C asked me to put on some videos from the playlist. I went over to my laptop and chose the shuffle mode on youtube. The first video was a little boring, so we skipped it halfway through and came to a video called ”Peter The Space Between”. This video got our full attention, seeing as it really hit the nail on the head. Apparently, C was fully focused on the film and commented on it several times until we got to the end. You see, at the end of the video, C completely snapped. He first said ”Is it true?!”, followed up by ”It’s can’t be!” and then he just shouted ”Noooooo!” at the top of his lungs. This got both M and myself quite worried, especially seeing as he was raging and gapped M’s leg and my arm. And we could both feel his grip for 10-15 minutes afterwards, it wasn’t a joke.

I was told the next day what C went through and how he interpreted the entire trip from this point on, so I’ll try to chronologically tell his side of the story, while I give off my own interpretation.
The way he experienced it, the moment I put on the video, I connected the 3 of us to an infinite computer machine which the entire world consisted of. After that, we were apparently lifted up and brought before some intergalactic entities that explained to C how the 3 of us were a symbolic representation for humanity and that we had to infinitely live through this computer simulation where only we existed, in order to preserve mankind in some form. He also told me that he died several times in this world and that whenever he did, the entire thing simply started over and he had to reexperience it once more.

The way M and I experienced the situation was radically different to C’s interpretation. Whenever C ”died” in his world, he was actually going through a thought loop and forgot everything that had just happened the past 10-20 minutes. Then he needed about 2-3 minutes to recollect his thoughts and then he was ready to speak with us, in a new loop.
He wasn’t acting like himself at all though. He seemed extremely sceptical at everything we said or did and we tried to get to know what was up. Somehow, he thought that M and I were the only people alive with him and that we continuously tried to kill or drug him. And I could tell by C’s body language that every single move I made, reinforced this belief in him. And there was nothing I could do. The fact that he made us out to be against him, actually ended up having an actual impact on our actual situation. I also felt that every word or move I made reinforced his belief, even without looking at him. It actually seemed as if M and I were out to kill him. And the more we tried to tell C that nothing was going on and that everything was completely alright, the more reinforced in his beliefs he became.
After he had looped approximately 2-3 times from the beginning, he truly started to question reality. He had to wake up the others several times to confirm what he was experiencing was actually reality. Sadly, whenever he was confronted with the truth of reality, his dream world was shattered and he went into another loop state and the entire story repeated itself again.

Whenever he was entering the loop state, he calmed down quite a bit. By the looks of his eyes, he probably wasn't even with us in the room in those moments. He became quite sweaty though and his skin was looking quite red as well. Whenever he was in the situation with us, he was shaking quite profusely and had a very evil look in his eyes, due to the fact that he thought it was all a plot against him.

After having gone through the same loop about 10-12 times over the past 3½ hours, we decided it was best to put C in bed. The longer we spoke with him over those 3½ hours, the more calm and grounded he became, although he still judged our intentions just as much as he did in the beginning. So we just told him that we would look objectively at his experience later and that he needed some sleep now. This in itself was a bit hard to convince him of, as he still presumed we were out to kill him. But after telling him to go to bed over the last 2-3 loops, he finally decided to do so.

M and I sat back and had a short conversation about what had just happened and decided to just leave it till tomorrow. The clock was about 6am at this point and I could see the visuals starting to slowly fade away and the colours becoming more and more dim. So M and I decided to smoke a bong mix and watch the movie "Hours” to prepare ourselves to go to bed.
Overall I’d say it was a very interesting trip, due to the fact that I had never previously observed anyone looping so badly on a psychedelic before. Sadly, I personally didn’t get much out of the trip, except for seeing some beautiful visuals and having an otherwise good time. We had planned to take 4-AcO-DMT the next day, but both C and M felt like they’ve had enough for this time. Rok and I were both ready for another night, but didn’t want to be the only two tripping either, so we skipped it instead.
 
Bonné said:
I contacted my grandmother 2 weeks prior to the experience and asked if I could burrow her cottage for the holiday weekend with some of my friends. She obviously agreed and prepared the entire home for our arrival, everything was basically taken care of. All we had to bring ourselves was food and clothes.
Your grandmother must be pretty cool, if she left all those drugs for you and your friends! :lol:

Personally, I wouldn't be willing to try 3mg 25i-NBOMe (or any of the other NBOMe's for that matter). It is my understanding that these compounds can be quite dangerous at higher doses. But to each their own. Thanks for sharing, Bonné!
 
Entheogenerator said:
Bonné said:
I contacted my grandmother 2 weeks prior to the experience and asked if I could burrow her cottage for the holiday weekend with some of my friends. She obviously agreed and prepared the entire home for our arrival, everything was basically taken care of. All we had to bring ourselves was food and clothes.
Your grandmother must be pretty cool, if she left all those drugs for you and your friends! :lol:

Personally, I wouldn't be willing to try 3mg 25i-NBOMe (or any of the other NBOMe's for that matter). It is my understanding that these compounds can be quite dangerous at higher doses. But to each their own. Thanks for sharing, Bonné!

Ahahah! :D Unfortunately, we also had to take care of the drugs ourselves. :)
I have also spent hours upon hours reading about nbome dosages and have very slowly increased my dosage to reach this point. But I can guarantee that I won't be experimenting with nbome in the near future, and certainly will never take a dose higher than 3mg. I find it to be a nice recreational psychedelic that I can enjoy with my friends, but nothing more than that. The entire experience is just so shallow and gives you a very confused mindspace that you can't really work with. This is one of the reasons as to why I didn't feel like I got my "psychedelic satisfaction" from just this one trip, as you just don't go very deep, in my opinion.

I'll probably smoke some changa in the coming days, as I've had the anticipation of a deep and important trip for a few months now and hoped that I'd get around to it in the cottage :)
 
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