Types of DMT Experiences....

[Psychonaut In Orbit]

I beg to differ. A lot of people claimed to have had drastic changes to their lifestyles simply because of DMT. And I won't lie, but I've learned a couple of things about the nature of spacetime and light and how light affects the travels of extradimensional beings. It seems, that extradimensional beings usually don't like light because light is to extradimensional beings as rain/snow is to airplanes: a tough thing to fly through. Nonetheless, since it is the infinite-sided cosmic coin that we're flipping when we smoke DMT, it's impossible to say that it isn't possible to get an answer that has a direct influence on some of life's matters. This report on erowid is really interesting and it displays this point....madd tired...gonna catch some zzz's for now

Yeah I agree completely that's why I said SOME my friend... SOME of the things DMT shows you will never translate into reality. I have had some pretty extreme breakthrough trips that I know for a fact what I saw had nothing to do with anything on Earth... it was almost like a taste-test on whats to come when getting to that realm but that realm can not be reached while still being a pilot in your vessel/body.... the full release of one's self into this realm will transcend all that is mundane so therefore trying to translate this otherworldly code into something useful on Earth is futile. I say that while saying this... DMT has completely changed my life in more ways than one and it has had a drastic change on me in a very positive manner... I am a lot more tolerable of situations that would usually stress me to shambles. I went through a few years of depression in my early twenties and I really wish I would have known about DMT then because I feel this beautiful molecule would have helped me then... but I'm glad I have it now.....

As far as the teks go well I used which one was easiest for me... that includes getting the supplies and everything and so far with this tek I've extracted roughly 3 grams from 1/2 kilo of MHRB with more pulls to go... and I've been pulling for just over a week and I'm still geting 300-600 mg bumps from these pulls (I'm pulling till there is nothing left to pull :twisted: )..... but all in all it doesn't matter my friend... as long as you are being safe and getting good spice then the tek doesn't matter.. it's the respect involved with making this particle that gets you a loooonggggg wayyyy 8)

 

[3rdI]

Did you ever stop getting visuals or breakthroughs from using it that much? I recently used it about 2 times every other day for a week, and i don't get any visuals or breakthroughs now

hello DMT777, i have had this happen to me a few times, it has never happened when i have had a break from journeying,. I have, on a few occassions, smoked for 3/4 days in a row, the last time i did this i had very very muted visuals on the 4th day, it was as if there was a big sheet hiding hyperspace, i could see the impressions of hyperspace on the sheet but that was all.

This happened again last week, i was looking at this sheet and all of a sudden a small eliptical tear appeared in the sheet and through it i could see the colours and the madness, it stayed open for a very short time then closed back up. very strange.

 

[Global]

There's no way as far as I know to induce one kind of experience or another other than for me, it seems that certain kinds of places are only accessible to me with combinations like ayahuasca and DMT or harmalas and DMT or LSD and DMT. As for your dosage, 60mg is easily an excessive dose from the GVG. I've tried it once, and it was way too much. With good vaping technique you can go pretty far with not that much. As for the DMT resin, I can relate to that. I don't clean my pipe often, and I know of times when I could tell I was melting and vaporizing the resin as I had put such little DMT in the pipe in the first place, and it was some of the furthest out I managed to get early on. The DMT condensate seems to be much more potent than freebasing it from scratch. It sort of defies logic, and don't know why it seems to work like that, but that's just the way I experience it.

I guess when I get my spice ready, I'll experiment. One time, I put up CGI art with a scifi theme to it. The resulting experience was quite similar in complexity and feel. I'll experiment and see if listening to a song(s) which I relate specific "feels" and "themes" to can induce experiences of similar "feels/themes". Same goes for pictures. However, I think the main target is mindset. Can a specific mindset induce a specific experience type? And what happens when one's mindset is simply open for ANY resulting experience? How far out is the resulting experience on a scale of 1-10? I'll obviously post some of the results of my experiments.

Honestly, it seems like there's little that can be done in the way of consciously affecting what kind of experience is in store. Even autosuggestion by repeatedly thinking of one thing or another doesn't have too much effect (in my experience anyway). Furthermore, I know that set/setting plays a big role in your experience, but DMT can go ahead and defy that sometimes anyway. It's entirely unpredictable and will defy one expectation after another that you set up for it to knock down. It's a matter of picking the right dose that's big enough (but not too big --- 60mg is about doubly too big) and efficiently vaporizing and inhaling it. Maybe you'd wanna try around 25-30mg. Make sure you're taking big inhalations and holding them in till when you exhale, you can see no vapor. If you can still see vapor, you haven't held it in long enough. Themes tend to emerge when there's enough energy in the experience to take the basic set of imagery you're already experiencing that allows the geometry to reconfigure itself thematically.

 

[XeR0]

I concur. I had more profound experiences on lower doses than with higher ones...which probably has to do with how I smoked it. At the time, I still didn't get the whole vaporizing thing down. I'm wondering now....those mystical experiences, is the art psychedelic or are they surreal? I guess when I'm trying to say is....when people say "I flew over this mountain and there was this entity watching me as I fly in this mountainous terrain..." are they seeing this all in psychedelic imagery or is it really like seeing an everyday mountain with snowcaps, rocks, and such? I guess what I'm trying to ask is: are ALL of the experiences - mystical or not - psychedelic in imagery and artistry?

 

[Global]

I concur. I had more profound experiences on lower doses than with higher ones...which probably has to do with how I smoked it. At the time, I still didn't get the whole vaporizing thing down. I'm wondering now....those mystical experiences, is the art psychedelic or are they surreal? I guess when I'm trying to say is....when people say "I flew over this mountain and there was this entity watching me as I fly in this mountainous terrain..." are they seeing this all in psychedelic imagery or is it really like seeing an everyday mountain with snowcaps, rocks, and such? I guess what I'm trying to ask is: are ALL of the experiences - mystical or not - psychedelic in imagery and artistry?

From my personal experiences, I would have to say the best way to answer that question is that they are psychedelically surreal. The sheer variety of "stuff" that infiltrates from the world that we experience every day is rather astonishing along with the amount of accurate details, however I can usually tell that the image is made out of light in some way. I would never confuse it for the real thing because it's too perfect.

 

[embracethevoid]

All my hallucinogenic experiences are of the same type as OP. There is very little entity contact aside from greys and metallic insectoids. This has not been a hindrance by any means. IMO this type of psychonaut is probably more internally oriented, if we presume that entities are projections of the mind.

 

[XeR0]

I'm just curious as to whether or not ANYONE has experienced like a "surreal-alien-sunset-on-a-far-off-planet-at-the-edge-of-a-cliff-next-to-an-ocean" type of experience....if so, I've been dying to have one of those!

 

[3rdI]

i stood on a cliff ledge dressed as a nomad and watched some kind of Godly beings hurl lightening balls of fractal energy that flowed from the highest of points, as it flowed downwards it created the hyperspace space.

The situation was as real as the room i know sit and type in.

Strange thing is that this was from a dose half the size as i would normally take, it did however have a half hour of meditation before hand.

i suggest you start meditating, immediately.

 

[XoDys]

I have never experienced a dmt trip for myself but from what I can tell you have no control over the experience.
It more or less chooses the experience itself so to speak.
If this is how it is reacting to you then that is what you must accept.

And if you truly want this picturesque alien landscape you'd probably have better luck with lucid dreaming.
I have had very similar landscapes in some of my dreams. They are very beautiful and I will always remember them like it was yesterday.

 

[XeR0]

i stood on a cliff ledge dressed as a nomad and watched some kind of Godly beings hurl lightening balls of fractal energy that flowed from the highest of points, as it flowed downwards it created the hyperspace space.

The situation was as real as the room i know sit and type in.

Strange thing is that this was from a dose half the size as i would normally take, it did however have a half hour of meditation before hand.

i suggest you start meditating, immediately.

I do meditate from time to time. I also practice lucid dreaming and OBE's. It's good to know such experiences exist.

I have never experienced a dmt trip for myself but from what I can tell you have no control over the experience.
It more or less chooses the experience itself so to speak.
If this is how it is reacting to you then that is what you must accept.

And if you truly want this picturesque alien landscape you'd probably have better luck with lucid dreaming.
I have had very similar landscapes in some of my dreams. They are very beautiful and I will always remember them like it was yesterday.

As mentioned, I do get lucid dreams. I haven't been able to induce them properly but I do know how to control them when they occur. Lucid dreaming is an incredible thing!

 

[Global]

I don't want to seem like a killjoy, but this attitude of controlling the DMT experience and trying to map the experience onto your expectations are sort of akin to planting a time bomb that's just waiting to go off. It's bound to give you troubles in some way down the road. You've gotta accept what you get, and if you never get what you've been expecting, maybe you have to realize that DMT might not be for you. Out of all the trip reports I've read, I can remember maybe 3 tops that fell under the "surreal" category. They're far and few between.

 

[DMT777]

Did you ever stop getting visuals or breakthroughs from using it that much? I recently used it about 2 times every other day for a week, and i don't get any visuals or breakthroughs now

hello DMT777, i have had this happen to me a few times, it has never happened when i have had a break from journeying,. I have, on a few occassions, smoked for 3/4 days in a row, the last time i did this i had very very muted visuals on the 4th day, it was as if there was a big sheet hiding hyperspace, i could see the impressions of hyperspace on the sheet but that was all.

This happened again last week, i was looking at this sheet and all of a sudden a small eliptical tear appeared in the sheet and through it i could see the colours and the madness, it stayed open for a very short time then closed back up. very strange.

I tried again two days ago but i still see nothing with my eyes closed, i get the body high and at high doses everything looks different but thats it. Its strange i cant think of anything that would be effecting the visual part. Hopefully ill be able to breakthrough tonight during the S.H.E.

 

[XeR0]

I don't want to seem like a killjoy, but this attitude of controlling the DMT experience and trying to map the experience onto your expectations are sort of akin to planting a time bomb that's just waiting to go off. It's bound to give you troubles in some way down the road. You've gotta accept what you get, and if you never get what you've been expecting, maybe you have to realize that DMT might not be for you. Out of all the trip reports I've read, I can remember maybe 3 tops that fell under the "surreal" category. They're far and few between.

I understand. I might've mentioned this before but I have had surreal experiences. The only thing is, they were few. I was wondering if there was a way to induce them or perhaps make them more frequent. By all means, even if I don't experience surreal realities, I still am in love with DMT. DMT opened my eyes as well as the eyes of my friends to the sheer expansiveness of reality. I enjoyed all of my DMT trips and I will enjoy them again! (with the exception of the accidental smoking of the residue...terrifying experience)