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Gondrio said:
But with all our accumulated knowledge, and technological advancements throughout the history of mankind... Take everything, and you still have one prodigious problem that has plagued humanity since our very existence. Its called... DEATH. What will you have gained in all of your lifetime, when EVERYTHING is taken from you in the blink of an eye? By all means, continue in your nonchalant and superficial fashion of living. Only let me whisper this in your ear, “What shall it profit a man if he gain the whole world and lose his own soul?" (Mark 8:36)

Ahhh the great controller of man....Fear of the unknown....

I guess I don't see death as any kind of problem!?!?!!? I for one, can't wait!!!!

I can't wait to be free of this meat suit that separates us & be part of the giant connection again (whatever it is) !!
I've felt it myself & need no books to back it up.


BTW, why haven't you answered any of the "what's you point" questions?
you've actually avoided most of the meat & potatoes questions people have posed to you through out this thread, instead opting to reply only to the ones that are easy to relate to pre-prepared bible verse...which we've all heard already.
LAME!!!

C'mon no more bible verse....get real with us.


WS
 
WSaged said:
Gondrio said:
But with all our accumulated knowledge, and technological advancements throughout the history of mankind... Take everything, and you still have one prodigious problem that has plagued humanity since our very existence. Its called... DEATH. What will you have gained in all of your lifetime, when EVERYTHING is taken from you in the blink of an eye? By all means, continue in your nonchalant and superficial fashion of living. Only let me whisper this in your ear, “What shall it profit a man if he gain the whole world and lose his own soul?" (Mark 8:36)

Ahhh the great controller of man....Fear of the unknown....

I guess I don't see death as any kind of problem!?!?!!? I for one, can't wait!!!!

I can't wait to be free of this meat suit that separates us & be part of the giant connection again (whatever it is) !!
I've felt it myself & need no books to back it up.


WS

Who ever said it was unknown? While I do not deny that most of the afterlife is unknown to us all, the Bible promises only everlasting joy and pleasure in the presence of God... to those in the beloved (Christ). To those who follow the coarse of this world, eternal damnation. Why should we take the Bible at its word? Well, this word "dogma" that keeps getting thrown out, does not fit Christianity, which is supported by a plethora of arguments that stand in the face of secular scrutiny, unlike any other religion.
 
Not really...

Most religions believe the same exact thing about themselves...


I'll repeat:
BTW, why haven't you answered any of the "what's you point" questions?
you've actually avoided most of the meat & potatoes questions people have posed to you through out this thread, instead opting to reply only to the ones that are easy to relate to pre-prepared bible verse...which we've all heard already.
LAME!!!

C'mon no more bible verse....get real with us.
 
Gondrio said:
WSaged said:
BTW, why haven't you answered any of the "what's you point" questions

Yes I did...

Gondrio said:
Please know that it is not my ultimate aim to offend, but rather, to warn.


Warn of what.....?

That we are all sinners & need to follow you religions rules or we will burn in hell when we die?
That is sad & not needed or wanted here.
And also offensive by the way.


And ahhh.....whats this got to do with DMT-nexus?
Do you have any interest in DMT or psychedelics? Any interest in them that comes from yourself & not the bible?


WS
 
Gondrio said:
fractal enchantment said:
"Regardless though, prior to the advent of Christianity in Europe, our ancestors were running around naked, painting themselves blue, and eating one another! It is Christianity which brings us the ability to think, logically."

It would be great if you could come here with some factual information..since that is NOT factual. Thats bullshit.

Or Judaism in Rome (who civilized other parts of Europe), which is basically just a legalistic form of Christianity. Take your pick.

No dude....no middle eastern religion "civilized" europe..I dont even want to get into the whole thing about your perspective on pre-christian europe vs mine becasue its obvious you are very biased here and think anything other than your way is primative..but that aside how was the european inquisition "civil"?

If "civilizing" an area means torturing people until they confess to things they didnt do, burning men, women and children, hanging them etc..then sure..they sure as hell civilized europe.

Do you have ANY sources at all, that are verifyable to back up your claims of all pre-chrisitan european tribes not having clothing and eating each other?..cus it gets damn cold in norway...

What can you even tell me about pre-christain european religion?..do you even know a thing at all about it other than what is recorded by missionaries after they tortured people until they confessed something that satisfied the church?..

Can you tell me anything at all about celtic, nordic mythology etc?..

I have the feeling you havent even researched this stuff..you just assume things about all the other paradigms people held and hold based on christianized reports.

Honestly man I just think you are so full of crap. You dont seem to know what the hell you are talking about. You have no sources for anything aside from the bible and iffy claims made by some ufologist authors..you cant back up any of these historical claims you are making, and you come here saying you are warning us, but I honestly am just very skeptical of you contributing anything to this forum..

It also sounds like the bible itself has become your operating system..
 
WSaged said:
Gondrio said:
WSaged said:
BTW, why haven't you answered any of the "what's you point" questions

Yes I did...

Gondrio said:
Please know that it is not my ultimate aim to offend, but rather, to warn.


Warn of what.....?

That we are all sinners & need to follow you religions rules or we will burn in hell when we die?
That is sad & not needed or wanted here.


And ahhh.....whats this got to do with DMT-nexus?


WS

No, that your rules are futile, and you need to fall on Christ.

WSaged said:
And ahhh.....whats this got to do with DMT-nexus?

Your name will be called on judgment day as well.


Isn't it about the evidence anymore, or have we really become this blind? It is unwise to trade a drop of pleasure, for a sea of wrath!
 
Gondrio said:
WSaged said:
Gondrio said:
WSaged said:
BTW, why haven't you answered any of the "what's you point" questions

Yes I did...

Gondrio said:
Please know that it is not my ultimate aim to offend, but rather, to warn.


Warn of what.....?

That we are all sinners & need to follow you religions rules or we will burn in hell when we die?
That is sad & not needed or wanted here.


And ahhh.....whats this got to do with DMT-nexus?


WS

No, that your rules are futile, and you need to fall on Christ.

WSaged said:
And ahhh.....whats this got to do with DMT-nexus?

Your name will be called on judgment day as well.


Isn't it about the evidence anymore, or have we really become this blind? It is unwise to trade a drop of pleasure, for a sea of wrath!

:lol: :lol: :lol:
 
I would much much rather not "fall on christ"..id deny anyone that expected me to blindly follow..I dont care if they are jesus or "god"..id still tell them to get lost.
 
WSaged said:
Gondrio said:
No, that your rules are futile, and you need to fall on Christ.

or what......?

Ummm... You will melt like a wax figurine before a blast furnace in the presence of the most high, having no righteousness of your own.
 
fractal enchantment said:
Gondrio said:
fractal enchantment said:
"Regardless though, prior to the advent of Christianity in Europe, our ancestors were running around naked, painting themselves blue, and eating one another! It is Christianity which brings us the ability to think, logically."

It would be great if you could come here with some factual information..since that is NOT factual. Thats bullshit.

Or Judaism in Rome (who civilized other parts of Europe), which is basically just a legalistic form of Christianity. Take your pick.

No dude....no middle eastern religion "civilized" europe..I dont even want to get into the whole thing about your perspective on pre-christian europe vs mine becasue its obvious you are very biased here and think anything other than your way is primative..but that aside how was the european inquisition "civil"?

If "civilizing" an area means torturing people until they confess to things they didnt do, burning men, women and children, hanging them etc..then sure..they sure as hell civilized europe.

Do you have ANY sources at all, that are verifyable to back up your claims of all pre-chrisitan european tribes not having clothing and eating each other?..cus it gets damn cold in norway...

What can you even tell me about pre-christain european religion?..do you even know a thing at all about it other than what is recorded by missionaries after they tortured people until they confessed something that satisfied the church?..

Can you tell me anything at all about celtic, nordic mythology etc?..

I have the feeling you havent even researched this stuff..you just assume things about all the other paradigms people held and hold based on christianized reports.

Honestly man I just think you are so full of crap. You dont seem to know what the hell you are talking about. You have no sources for anything aside from the bible and iffy claims made by some ufologist authors..you cant back up any of these historical claims you are making, and you come here saying you are warning us, but I honestly am just very skeptical of you contributing anything to this forum..

It also sounds like the bible itself has become your operating system..


Just read some of the historical accounts of pre-Christian Europe and how the various European tribes conducted themselves. If I can find them in my books I will have to post some of it - it's incredible how depraved it was.
 
^sorry, I actaully studied pre-christian tribal societies in colledge. Was hardly primitive compared to what came to europe durring and after the inquisition.

.I really need to avoid this thread...waste of time.
 
fractal enchantment said:
I would much much rather not "fall on christ"..id deny anyone that expected me to blindly follow..I dont care if they are jesus or "god"..id still tell them to get lost.

Is it any coincidence that Christ went about Jerusalem healing blind eyes? yet you take this so superficially...

Those who follow Christ do not do so blindly.
 
fractal enchantment said:
Was hardly primitive compared to what came to europe durring and after the inquisition.

No longer the same argument. The question is: "where did we get the principles by which we live today?"
 
Gondrio said:
fractal enchantment said:
I would much much rather not "fall on christ"..id deny anyone that expected me to blindly follow..I dont care if they are jesus or "god"..id still tell them to get lost.

Is it any coincidence that Christ went about Jerusalem healing blind eyes? yet you take this so superficially...

Those who follow Christ do not do so blindly.


So you yourself saw this happen then?

Or did you read about it in a 2000 year old book & have church leaders tell you about it?


....what don't you do blindly?

WS
 
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