Unsuccessful Attempt

[march]

I accidently took low dose DMT with an unsuccessful attempt and I'm writing from this viewpoint now.I have learnt with this way DMT may be how unlikeable.I have a terrible taste in my throat and I'm feeling like I'm poisoned.There's no hallucinations now but there was and they were like regular doses of other psychedelics.But something bad with this,everything seems greenish and faded unlike with other psychedelics,colours are brighter with others but it's different with DMT.

This was my second attempt and I can say DMT is absolutely not a low dose drug,I think there's no middle of this,there's going with it(you call it breakthrough) or not.I prefer any other psychedelic to low dose DMT,it really doesn't matter which one,I even prefer a clear head to low dose DMT,this is really terrible.

By the way I know what's wrong this time,I mixed it with ashes and it simply didn't work.I'm using this unlovable pet bottle with foil technique and believe me or not I succeed it last time(and also it's my first time) with 40mgs.But it was 40mgs straight DMT on the foil,I took it with one breath and I found myself in the other side in seconds.But this time I think I waited too long to see the cloudy smoke,I've seen it after all and took it with one hit but it was really disgusting,terrible taste.I'm sure I just couldn't realized this taste last time,I was gone before taste came.I put in there 40mgs this time also but with ashes and it didn't work.I'm saying this because warning people who use pet bottle,don't use ashes on the foil,just use straight DMT and be ready to go on a sudden.

Lesson learnt,I'm not going to push myself further today,there's no meaning to push,I'll just wait maybe a week or so and I will try to do a machine in this time or I will do it straight again,I hated ashes and I also hated low dose DMT.Low doses of DMT is nothing but disgusting if I compare it with shrooms,LSD,2c-p or 2c-e.I know it maybe subjective and it's just my opinion but just don't do it low,it's nothing but waste.I did it and also with the wrong equipment and felt just terrible But now I'm okay,life goes on...

 

[3rdI]

low dose's of DMT are lovely.

you need a better smoalking device as you are burning the DMT on the foil, if you vape it properly it will be very smooth. I cant see the ash making any diference to the experience.

DMT is never shit.

 

[march]

low dose's of DMT are lovely.

you need a better smoalking device as you are burning the DMT on the foil, if you vape it properly it will be very smooth. I cant see the ash making any diference to the experience.

DMT is never shit.

Please don't take it like I'm striking your holy thing,I just said how I feel and like I said I didn't like it.I know my smoking tech wasn't best, even it may be worst but I could took it enough to see melting effects and patterns on the wall.But there was something wrong with it,when I take LSD or 2c-xs I see everything brighter and alive but with DMT,everything seemed to me greenish and like dead,I found myself in the night of the living dead for a moment

And I know I need a better smoking device of course but it doesn't seems possible now.I have some bongs for cannabis but I really hated ashes.

And believe me I have respect DMT because I've seen what it is like last time and also with the same device except ashes.Yes I accept this pet bottle thing a bit disgusting and seems a bit miserable but I saw that it works,so I also have respect this pet bottle thing :lol:

By the way I really didn't want to hurt you or anybody,I just said what exactly I think honestly.

 

[MomentOfTruth]

:thumb_dow

I agree with 3rdI. Don't blame the DMT for your lack of ability in smoking it.

There is a whole range of hallucinatory phenomena between low doses and breakthrough doses.

Be careful disrespecting this molecule, because it WILL prove you wrong. And when it does, i just hope you are ready!

 

[march]

:thumb_dow

I agree with 3rdI. Don't blame the DMT for your lack of ability in smoking it.

There is a whole range of hallucinatory phenomena between low doses and breakthrough doses.

Be careful disrespecting this molecule, because it WILL prove you wrong. And when it does, i just hope you are ready!

This seems threatening .However we don't need to discuss this,cause I'm not disrespecting it,I think I should do justice to DMT and should take it properly and also with enough amount.I disrespected it because I couldn't take it enough and it punished me with sending me greenish zombie land :d

 

[Global]

Anytime you find yourself saying "DMT is (this)" or "DMT is (that)", take a moment to review why you're probably wrong. The DMT experience is so wholly varied that it's practically impossible to label any constant on the experience at all. What may be true of it one day will not be true the next (or not entirely true anyway). DMT can have the tendency to do certain things, however march, being that you say it's your second time, this would place you in an even less likely position to make any kind of claim in regards to DMT as you have no sense of what it's tendencies can be in the first place. Disrespecting DMT aside, you should probably take a look at the attitude page again in terms of disrespecting Nexus policy.

 

[march]

Anytime you find yourself saying "DMT is (this)" or "DMT is (that)", take a moment to review why you're probably wrong. The DMT experience is so wholly varied that it's practically impossible to label any constant on the experience at all. What may be true of it one day will not be true the next (or not entirely true anyway). DMT can have the tendency to do certain things, however march, being that you say it's your second time, this would place you in an even less likely position to make any kind of claim in regards to DMT as you have no sense of what it's tendencies can be in the first place. Disrespecting DMT aside, you should probably take a look at the attitude page again in terms of disrespecting Nexus policy.

Okay, I guess there are some tight rules here,thanks for your warning Global,I deleted some words about possibly unsafe research chemicals.On the other hand I'm surprised with this defense mechanism,it seems weird.I feel like I'm in a religious group now as an unwelcome person.But I don't judge you,it's not my job so please don't judge me too for who I am or what I think.Thank you again.

 

[Global]

I was actually referring to your language. And they're not my rules either, I just try and follow em :thumb_up:

 

[march]

I was actually referring to your language. And they're not my rules either, I just try and follow em :thumb_up:

By the way I'm thinking now...I'm so sleepless and tired and smoked DMT 3 days ago and my set wasn't good enough I guess,I mean is it possible it didn't effect me as I expected because of these?But I guess it's not,because I saw how powerful it is...I think ashes are the main problem,I hate ashes .

I don't understand what's wrong with my language?By the way I respect you and of course others too but I know you're saying these for my goodness and I appreciate you.

Ok, I deleted all s**t words,it wasn't a suitable word anyway

 

[The Traveler]

By the way I really didn't want to hurt you or anybody with saying it is shit,I just said what exactly I think honestly.

If you replace 'shit' with 'great to rape march bands' in this sentence then you will hopefully understand the falicy of your reasoning.

Okay, I guess there are some tight rules here,thanks for your warning Global,I deleted some words about possibly unsafe research chemicals.On the other hand I'm surprised with this defense mechanism,it seems weird.I feel like I'm in a religious group now as an unwelcome person.But I don't judge you,it's not my job so please don't judge me too for who I am or what I think.Thank you again.

This place prides itself for having credible data. If people bring their own ideas and state them as fact, implicitly or explicitly, then this wil detoriate that credibility. What you see as 'religious' is actually the opposite, we try to prevent people from making unfounded claims and cling to them religously. We want logical facts that are replicable.

By the way I'm thinking now...I'm so slepless and tired and smoked DMT 3 days ago and my set wasn't good enough I guess,I mean is it possible it didn't effect me as I expected because of these?But I guess it's not,because I saw how powerful it is...I think ashes are the main problem,I hate ashes .

If there is a terrible taste in your throat combined with a feeling like you were poisoned, then chances are that you burnt your DMT. Burned DMT gives off a horrible smell, is harsh for your throat and lungs, gives a bad taste and can even make you nauseous resulting in you feeling unwell (and poisoned). The psychedelic efects of DMT can further catalyze those feelings.

Combine this with your smoking method with foil, which is prone to cause burned DMT, and you now have two logical facts pointing at burnt DMT. Many people have smoked DMT on an ash bed without the problems that you describe, so there we have a logical fact that points against ash being the culprit.

Of course there is still another explanation possible but currently the available facts points at burnt DMT.


Kind regards,

The Traveler

 

[hug46]

I think ashes are the main problem,I hate ashes .

the first device i made was the foil bottle thing, it burnt the dmt, hurt my lungs and almost made me nearly sick, which was quite disconcerting while tripping , to say the least.

It almost completely put me off as i thought my chest wasn"t designed for this substance. i bought a vapour genie and whether i vape a small amount or large (large for me) it is very easy on the chest and the effects vary, but so far have not been unpleasant, intense, but not unpleasant.If you can"t afford a VG maybe take a bit of time and make a machine? you can find a description in the DMT handbook i think.
I think you won"t regret it, and practice helps.

 

[march]

By the way I really didn't want to hurt you or anybody with saying it is shit,I just said what exactly I think honestly.

If you replace 'shit' with 'great to rape march bands' in this sentence then you will hopefully understand the falicy of your reasoning.

Okay, I guess there are some tight rules here,thanks for your warning Global,I deleted some words about possibly unsafe research chemicals.On the other hand I'm surprised with this defense mechanism,it seems weird.I feel like I'm in a religious group now as an unwelcome person.But I don't judge you,it's not my job so please don't judge me too for who I am or what I think.Thank you again.

This place prides itself for having credible data. If people bring their own ideas and state them as fact, implicitly or explicitly, then this wil detoriate that credibility. What you see as 'religious' is actually the opposite, we try to prevent people from making unfounded claims and cling to them religously. We want logical facts that are replicable.

By the way I'm thinking now...I'm so slepless and tired and smoked DMT 3 days ago and my set wasn't good enough I guess,I mean is it possible it didn't effect me as I expected because of these?But I guess it's not,because I saw how powerful it is...I think ashes are the main problem,I hate ashes .

If there is a terrible taste in your throat combined with a feeling like you were poisoned, then chances are that you burnt your DMT. Burned DMT gives off a horrible smell, is harsh for your throat and lungs, gives a bad taste and can even make you nauseous resulting in you feeling unwell (and poisoned). The psychedelic efects of DMT can further catalyze those feelings.

Combine this with your smoking method with foil, which is prone to cause burned DMT, and you now have two logical facts pointing at burnt DMT. Many people have smoked DMT on an ash bed without the problems that you describe, so there we have a logical fact that points against ash being the culprit.

Of course there is still another explanation possible but currently the available facts points at burnt DMT.


Kind regards,

The Traveler

Ok, I might be forgot to delete one s**t word.

I still don't understand ash thing,I decided to use ash for not burning DMT but I guess it caused opposite.

 

[march]

I think ashes are the main problem,I hate ashes .

the first device i made was the foil bottle thing, it burnt the dmt, hurt my lungs and almost made me nearly sick, which was quite disconcerting while tripping , to say the least.

It almost completely put me off as i thought my chest wasn"t designed for this substance. i bought a vapour genie and whether i vape a small amount or large (large for me) it is very easy on the chest and the effects vary, but so far have not been unpleasant, intense, but not unpleasant.If you can"t afford a VG maybe take a bit of time and make a machine? you can find a description in the DMT handbook i think.
I think you won"t regret it, and practice helps.

Thank you,I think to make a machine but it seems hard to drill a glass bottle and I don't want to use plastic again,I will work on it Actually I have some ideas about using test tubes somehow but I saw somewhere here an ineffective setup with it.I thought to use a lightbulb but I've also read bad things about it.How can I buy a VG?I'm not living in USA or Europe,is it be a problem with customs?Maybe I can find a glass or ceramic pipe here and can use it in a some kind of mechanism...

 

[3rdI]

I still don't understand ash thing,I decided to use ash for not burning DMT but I guess it caused opposite.

the ash wont have added pleasnt or negative effects to your experience it is an excessive amount of heat that will have burnt your DMT not the ash.

look into infusing some herb with DMT and smoalking it in a standard bong.

 

[march]

I still don't understand ash thing,I decided to use ash for not burning DMT but I guess it caused opposite.

the ash wont have added pleasnt or negative effects to your experience it is an excessive amount of heat that will have burnt your DMT not the ash.

look into infusing some herb with DMT and smoalking it in a standard bong.

Thank you I will try it.But I worry about the can't inhaling enough dose,because when I used pet bottle before,I was just gone before I exhale...but I will try it,I cannot know without try.

 

[Global]

By the way I'm thinking now...I'm so sleepless and tired and smoked DMT 3 days ago and my set wasn't good enough I guess,I mean is it possible it didn't effect me as I expected because of these?But I guess it's not,because I saw how powerful it is...I think ashes are the main problem,I hate ashes

The main point I want to convey here is that DMT is so incredibly unpredictable that it can be very difficult to narrow down why certain things occur in a particular experience, and practically impossible with such a limited set of experiences. You ask me to refrain from judging you, and so I offer that you apply your own advice to your DMT experiences. Refrain from judging them so quickly. They have many sides and faces they want to show you. Simply observe, and be mindful of where your attention is.

 

[march]

By the way I'm thinking now...I'm so sleepless and tired and smoked DMT 3 days ago and my set wasn't good enough I guess,I mean is it possible it didn't effect me as I expected because of these?But I guess it's not,because I saw how powerful it is...I think ashes are the main problem,I hate ashes

The main point I want to convey here is that DMT is so incredibly unpredictable that it can be very difficult to narrow down why certain things occur in a particular experience, and practically impossible with such a limited set of experiences. You ask me to refrain from judging you, and so I offer that you apply your own advice to your DMT experiences. Refrain from judging them so quickly. They have many sides and faces they want to show you. Simply observe, and be mindful of where your attention is.

I didn't refer judging for this kind of situation,I never despise your experiences with dmt and I also don't despise your experiences with life or your language or your point of view.So I expect the same from you. But I think there's no problem now,maybe I acted wrong because of the disappointment.And I will remember your advice.

 

[march]

Something happened...I have some crazy dreams last night.It's like digging my subconscious very deeply and it's like DMT said to me something like ''you couldn't catch me when you were awake but I catched you while you are sleeping''.I like this :roll: