Unusually? long cactus trip

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I had a decent dose of bridgesii resin 24 hours ago. Redosed a bit more about 2 hours after that. The resin was a new batch and still quite runny so no way to know the actual dose.

Now, 24h later I'm still not at baseline. Feeling quite stimulated and with minor visual effects. I'm not worried but curious why this has happened.

In your experience, is this normal? Do you think it could be due to a large dose? The peak was quite good but not the strongest I've had, however it hasn't lasted this long before.

 

[_Trip_]

I've had bigger doses last a few hours longer than they should but not 24. Have you taken anything that interacts as a daoi? There's a theory dao inhibitors could prolong and potentate mesc but theoretical and I wouldn't know what foods or meds interact with these receptors.

 

[blig-blug]

No, we haven't taken anything else, nor the days before. Hard to know if besides the leftover stimulation there are other true effects, because the lingering visuals could be due to sleep deprivation.

I had a similar batch last 20 hours before but the peak was much stronger.

I've been able to sleep for about 3 hours but my friend hasn't slept at all yet.

Not really a problem, we will eventually sleep, but I would like to understand what is causing it to plan accordingly in the future and avoid it if possible.

 

[_Trip_]

Yh sleep dep could be playing a role. Must of had a decent dose.
Or you've both got kidney issues and the extra mesc keeps circulating .

 

[blig-blug]

Hopefully not that. We've been peeing a lot.

It's probably the dose then. These bridgesii may have played a role too because they feel very MDMA-like physically.

Next time I may just get up at 5 AM to take it.

 

[doubledog]

Never happened to me, but bridgesii is reported to be very specific. I vaguely remember one report of similar unusual lenght of the experience.
In general, resin in higher dose interfere with my sleep much more than isolated mescaline.

 

[blig-blug]

I'm inclined to think it's due to the dose and/or whatever alkaloid mix in the resin. My friend and I are very different physically, opposite genders, have a very different lifestyle, and are from a different ethnicity. So it would be a weird coincidence if it were to be something genetic.

 

[Jamie01]

I have definitely felt mescaline even after 24+ hours on a number of occasions.

 

[universecannon]

I don't come fully down from longer lasting psychedelics till I sleep and 3hrs might not be enough especially with something as long as cacti. So I'd guess it's both.

As for avoiding in the future you could try some melatonin, but it might not help too much. I usually dose once already sleep deprived anyways, which has an added bonus of making sleeping afterwords easier than normal

 

[Jamie01]

I’m pretty sure I have taken at noon, not slept and still felt the stimulation by dinner the following day.

 

[Transform]

With cactus, I'm quite prepared to stay awake for two days. It's a good excuse for taking it easy and nibbling away at it slowly the whole time.

 

[RitualOpossum]

bridgesii also has maoi's. I've wondered how much is needed to activate nn-DMT..

 

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bridgesii also has maoi's. I've wondered how much is needed to activate nn-DMT..

Is this confirmed? It would make sense if that's the case.

I'm more comfortable about it now that I know it's not totally abnormal. I personally don't mind it that much, and I've felt in a very good mood and surprisingly able to do stuff despite sleep deprivation (but quite forgetful). My friend had (is still having) a much more difficult time with it, I think because she's less experienced with psychedelics. Also, maybe mescaline (or at least bridgesii resin) just doesn't sit well with her.

Next time I will probably get up very early to take it at 4 or 5 AM.

 

[RitualOpossum]

http://www.dragibusmag.com/flavonoids-overlooked-ingredients/ Dragibus Magazine states that it contains kaempferol and Quercetin which act as MAOI flavanoids but also there's discussion about it on other forums. Others have said its disputed though

 

[Jamie01]

I don’t know why, but peruvianus, bridge, Lophophora and pachanoi are all different for me. I’m not sure about length. They have all lasted a long time.

 

[blig-blug]

Once again, a 20h experience, both for me and my girlfriend. She hadn't tried this resin previously.

Something else I don't get is that it's not that visual for me during most of the experience. I get open eye patterns and very few closed eye visuals, very geometric and that move very slowly. However, at about T+12:00 the visual activity started to increase, particularly with closed eyes, and when I went to lie down at about T+17:00 or so I was getting very colorful, detailed, and fast moving visuals that at points felt almost overwhelming (because I was very tired). I don't understand how that's possible, and I'm wondering if it could be that I somehow unconsciously resist part of the effects, but when I become tired I can do so less and so visuals come easier.

I'm not sure if I'll keep this resin as resin or will try to extract the mescaline from it. I like the effects from resin much more, but this duration is a bit too much, it's exhausting.

 

[doubledog]

Fully understand, resin is great in general but tends to have unpleasant effects. I would maybe try to use it for low dose experiences as a stimulant.

Seems to be very unique.

 

[Jamie01]

Later stages of mescaline produce more alpha and theta and apparently dreamy hallucinations.

 

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Later stages of mescaline produce more alpha and theta and apparently dreamy hallucinations.

Interesting. I don't know if I'd call the ones I had this time more dreamy, they were much faster than the ones at more initial stages and I'd say similar to LSD visuals when it gets cartoonish, only more esthetically pleasing. Other times they did look more dreamy.

At one point I suddenly "did" something in my head (not clear what, it felt as if I were contracting the center of my brain, so I suppose some scalp muscle tension) and saw like a bullet inside my head. Everything turned immediately purple and the visuals became much calmer. I was able to do that more times when they got again too intense for my tiredness. I'm just commenting this as a curiosity, not that it's relevant.

With pure mescaline none of that happened, but my dose was likely lower, and it was a much shorter experience.