Upcoming Second Toad Journey

[Lopsided Nobody]

Long story short, I have had one Bufo Toad journey and am planning my second one in the next coming weeks. I have a few questions.

First, for the prep, last time I was told to abstain from meat or animal products, alcohol, and sex for a certain number of days leading up to the journey, and to set my intention. Is there anything different or in addition I should consider for this time?

Second, my larger question is if there is anything I expect or do differently to get the most from the experience. For what to expect, I suspect it will be just as intense but perhaps more familiar. My first journey was not challenging as such, but it was also very, very intense, violent but full of awe, overwhelm, and beauty. I am not sure if it will be easier or more natural with what I am told is some familiarity, or if there is much change in repeat sessions with the overwhelm and awe. As for what to "do" differently, I am thinking more as far as intention, the release and acceptance of it, and the integration.

Finally, I would be curious for those of you who have had repeat journeys with the Bufo Toad, are there any notable differences, observations, insights you have made between journeys, or prompts from having had these experiences that you think would be worth me considering going into this journey.

Thanks for any thoughts on this.

 

[Jamie01]

Go to whoever is giving you toad and inform them it’s unethical..unsustainable. Then do not partake.

 

[Jamie01]

…for some context

Toad, Truth, and the Trouble with 5-MeO: Why Bufo alvarius Needs Our Protection

The Sonoran Desert toad (Incilius alvarius, formerly Bufo alvarius) produces 5-MeO-DMT in its skin. Demand for that molecule now pressures a fragile animal. Retreats and celebrity stories fuel it. The result is stress on a wild species and its habitat. This piece is pro-facts, pro-ecology, and...

psychedelicstoday.com

 

[salientbeings]

No special diet restrictions like aya... but i think it always helps to eat clean and healthy on the run-up and abstain from alcohol and other drugs.
Every journey is different for me and I trust that whatever happens is for my highest good. Just go with the flow

 

[Jamie01]

The toad boom: the false narrative of ancestral 5-MeO-DMT use

Editorial Note: Anny Ortiz returns with her fourth contribution to the Pharmaceutical Inequalities series. In this latest post she interrogates how the false narrative of ancestral 5-MeO-DMT use, that started with one man ten years ago, has given way to toad churches that may threaten the future...

www.pointshistory.org

There are no diet restrictions because there is no real tradition. It’s all made up. It’s a powerful psychedelic and a profound experience but any practice around it is new.

 

[Here&Now]

There are definitely a few pharmaceutical restrictions to watch out for, but none for diet that I'm aware of. Check page 15 of the PDF associated with this link.

Research - FIVE GUIDE: Pharmacology and Drug Interactions of 5-MeO-DMT

By the same person that gave us the Jaguar Vape Pen I received the attached PDF document for you all to share on this platform. It contains essential information about the known workings of 5-MeO-DMT, it's pharmacology and drug interactions. Dedication and Acknowledgement Thank you for...

forum.dmt-nexus.me

In my experience, the 5-MeO-DMT trip will stay very consistent relative to other psychedelics, but it'll also paradoxically evolve as your capacity for presence grows. It's hard to describe what that means, so you'll kind of just have to see for yourself.

 

[ommani]

Hey hippie leave those toads alone!

(all in all it’s just another toad in the road)

 

[Here&Now]

I've never used it in the form of toad secretion, but I wouldn't think it'd be better. There's a lot of extra junk that you have to vape to get to the ~15% 5-MeO-DMT content. You also can't use it for more interesting ROAs, such as injection.

And then, of course, it's really not nice to squeeze out the toad's defense mechanism for our own enjoyment. In all ways, you'd be better off pooling your resources to see if you can get some synthetic product of your own. Or go to a facilitator that uses it.

 

[Lopsided Nobody]

…for some context

Toad, Truth, and the Trouble with 5-MeO: Why Bufo alvarius Needs Our Protection

The Sonoran Desert toad (Incilius alvarius, formerly Bufo alvarius) produces 5-MeO-DMT in its skin. Demand for that molecule now pressures a fragile animal. Retreats and celebrity stories fuel it. The result is stress on a wild species and its habitat. This piece is pro-facts, pro-ecology, and...

psychedelicstoday.com

Thank you for that. I also perused the 5-MeO-DMT subforum and it's subsequently soured me on the idea.

 

[Lopsided Nobody]

And then, of course, it's really not nice to squeeze out the toad's defense mechanism for our own enjoyment. In all ways, you'd be better off pooling your resources to see if you can get some synthetic product of your own. Or go to a facilitator that uses it.

The injection ROA is interesting, and I do not think toad secretion would be better, it was just what was available.

That said...agreed on all counts. I neither want to do something unethical nor harm anything in the ecosystem. Are there any good ways to research the synthetic or facilitators who use that? I have also heard from precisely one person that there is an injectable process, but know almost nothing of that. Is there any specific name or place to learn more about that?

 

[Here&Now]

The injection ROA is interesting, and I do not think toad secretion would be better, it was just what was available.

That said...agreed on all counts. I neither want to do something unethical nor harm anything in the ecosystem. Are there any good ways to research the synthetic or facilitators who use that? I have also heard from precisely one person that there is an injectable process, but know almost nothing of that. Is there any specific name or place to learn more about that?

Here's some information for educational purposes about injecting 5-MeO-DMT, but you're probably better off sticking with vaping or plugging if you have no injection experience.

So You Want To Intramuscularly Administer 5-MeO-DMT HCl (or other salt)

So You Want To Intramuscularly Administer 5-MeO-DMT HCl (or other salt)

forums.5meodmt.org

I haven't gone to a facilitator, so I couldn't speak much about that. If you look around enough, I bet you could find info regarding facilitators in your local area. As far as acquiring your own 5-MeO-DMT, all I can say while following forum rules is that you should be able to find that information if you search hard enough. Certain subreddits would probably point you in the right direction.