Using 40 g raw iboga root to kick fentanyl..please help?

[strawberriklimaxxx]

Hello everyone and thanku those of you that were willing to actually read this post .. As the title says i do indeed have approximately 40g of raw iboga root bark ..that i got specifically for one use,and one use only ,and that's to finally kick this cruel master, that owns my ass along with my entire life,and all i hold dear
Let me start by saying that ..ive done ALOT of research , and i believe that this is the only real shot i have at getting free of these heavy shackles ...for good ... So i understand all the risks, especially the ones that accompany doing this at home like i am .
And like many junkies,even if i have that kind of money..(.which i dont,)it would sadly never be able to be saved longer than as soon as i take the last hit of my current sack ,and have began to go into junkie limbo.. following what i will describe as what it must feel like to have you body turning itself inside out and incapable of doing anything to help itself,infact the more it attempts to fight or resist in any way whatsoever, the suffering always seems to multiply in on itself .a .truly particular kind of fresh hell,i would not wish on my worst enemy..
With that said,this is is what im hoping to have someone clear up for me...i got the raw bark on purpose. I didn't want the hci salts.its robs you of the treatment as whole.there is a entire entourage of alkaloids ,that all have something to contribute to the incredible medicine this offers.and would dream of stripping it of all except one single spirit helper (for lack of a better term)and expecting to receive the medicine as a intended whole ..not just that, but it i would personally feel as though i was blatantly disrespecting the plant teacher if i did not accept the entire package they are willing to bestow apon me.,i wouldn't feel like i deserved to partake of any of it..
However i am aware of how dangerous this the process is.and how important it is to know what the correct dosage is .and from what i understand the only way it i can accomplish this is by taking a 5 gram amount,and calculating how much extract i have left to find out what the aprox concentration of what i need i am dealing with so i just am trying to figure out like is whether the first step (aka )the crude extraction can tell me what i need to know, and if not, what additional steps are needed? I appreciate any advice thanu
mush love

 

[Mimosaquero]

this is very much not a good idea. you need doctors, your vitals checked and pre screened. please rethink this. i do not want someone to die from foolishness.

 

[Neo-shulginist]

Most important is that you have no fentanyl in your bloodstream left. The combination with fentanyl or other opioïds can be life-threatening. It will take approximately 28 hours before fentanyl is eliminated from your bloodstream. So that means you will have to endure some withdrawal effects first.

Also, I agree with @Mimosaquero that iboga should be medically supervised to check your heart rate and treat you when heart rate or oxygen saturation gets too low. Iboga is not safe in that regard.

Personally I'd recommend taking control over dosage rather than opting for the entourage effect. This entourage effect in iboga is not well-established, whereas the treatment of opioid addiction with ibogaïne is better validated in the scientific literature, including preferred dose range, treatment protocol, and follow-up studies.

If professional treatment with ibogaïne is however unavailble to you, try extracting ibogaïne first using one of the teks available on this site. See for example this one:

Thread 'Another Iboga alkaloid extraction with purification, if needed.'

Feb 21, 2010

This tek was adapted from Chris Jenks' extraction notes found elsewhere on the internet. I have added the measurements used in panoramix's tek, to be more precise, so thanks to both of you! I have modified it slightly per my own tek, developed with Chris Jenks' help, and have added precise measurements from reading panroramix's tek. It is nice to have more precise measurements, rather than just going by eye and careful titration. So here goes:

The Extraction:

What you need: Plain white distilled vinegar, a stainless steel, ceramic, HDPE, or non-reactive container, janitorial strength...

• GratefulDad
• Replies: 7
• Forum: Iboga

 

[Mimosaquero]

Most important is that you have no fentanyl in your bloodstream left. The combination with fentanyl or other opioïds can be life-threatening. It will take approximately 28 hours before fentanyl is eliminated from your bloodstream. So that means you will have to endure some withdrawal effects first.

Also, I agree with @Mimosaquero that iboga should be medically supervised to check your heart rate and treat you when heart rate or oxygen saturation gets too low. Iboga is not safe in that regard.

Personally I'd recommend taking control over dosage rather than opting for the entourage effect. This entourage effect in iboga is not well-established, whereas the treatment of opioid addiction with ibogaïne is better validated in the scientific literature, including preferred dose range, treatment protocol, and follow-up studies.

If professional treatment with ibogaïne is however unavailble to you, try extracting ibogaïne first using one of the teks available on this site. See for example this one:

Thread 'Another Iboga alkaloid extraction with purification, if needed.'

Feb 21, 2010

This tek was adapted from Chris Jenks' extraction notes found elsewhere on the internet. I have added the measurements used in panoramix's tek, to be more precise, so thanks to both of you! I have modified it slightly per my own tek, developed with Chris Jenks' help, and have added precise measurements from reading panroramix's tek. It is nice to have more precise measurements, rather than just going by eye and careful titration. So here goes:

The Extraction:

What you need: Plain white distilled vinegar, a stainless steel, ceramic, HDPE, or non-reactive container, janitorial strength...

• GratefulDad
• Replies: 7
• Forum: Iboga

not to mention a flood dose for fent will not be as effective as he'd think since its super strong and wont get rid of WD symptoms so theyre gonna be risking death for nothing almost. they need to be clean for at least 2 weeks.

 

[The Traveler]

@strawberriklimaxxx

Good to have you here, though first please slowly calm down, brace yourself, we understand your urge, and we understand that you are running into our:
Medical emergency: what to do?




Kind regards,

The Traveler

 

[strawberriklimaxxx]

not to mention a flood dose for fent will not be as effective as he'd think since its super strong and wont get rid of WD symptoms so theyre gonna be risking death for nothing almost. they need to be clean for at least 2 weeks.

Hmm....I have not heard about the 2 week rule yet im intrigued.would love you to share your sources you heard about this thanku for so much replying

 

[strawberriklimaxxx]

@strawberriklimaxxx

Good to have you here, though first please slowly calm down, brace yourself, we understand your urge, and we understand that you are running into our:
Medical emergency: what to do?




Kind regards,

The Traveler

Thank u for having me hered

 

[strawberriklimaxxx]

As much as there are risks,theres actuallly ,at least one other person just on dmt nexus that successfully went through the same process.at home....i believe they started with the 50 mg test dose then took the first 500 mg and then after a little bit if time(id have to check again for exact time they waited )..i will link the post below.and there have been alot of other testimonies of others on various platforms and sites, that have managed to successfully accomplish this great feat ,in their bedroom alone,(which i wouldnt be alone for this)but from what i have researched , its totally in the realm of possibilities,but more importantly in the realm of possibilities of safely accomplishing .i know not having any pre-existing heart conditions (which i luckily do not)plus a couple other things to re check first ,will significantly lower the chances of complications,but i am just out of options and really feel like this is one of my only options.ive tried alll of the other things,cold turkey,suboxone subuteks,even methadone and as much as being in the right head space i feel that i need a legitimate reset.....also they way i see it is this,at the end of yhe day this shit is def going to kill me one way or another,and the more i look into it, it,it is worth the risk...
This is one of many testimonials i have found
Thread 'My Ibogaine Experience' My Ibogaine Experience

 

[Neo-shulginist]

As much as there are risks,theres actuallly ,at least one other person just on dmt nexus that successfully went through the same process.at home....i believe they started with the 50 mg test dose then took the first 500 mg and then after a little bit if time(id have to check again for exact time they waited )..i will link the post below.and there have been alot of other testimonies of others on various platforms and sites, that have managed to successfully accomplish this great feat ,in their bedroom alone,(which i wouldnt be alone for this)but from what i have researched , its totally in the realm of possibilities,but more importantly in the realm of possibilities of safely accomplishing .i know not having any pre-existing heart conditions (which i luckily do not)plus a couple other things to re check first ,will significantly lower the chances of complications,but i am just out of options and really feel like this is one of my only options.ive tried alll of the other things,cold turkey,suboxone subuteks,even methadone and as much as being in the right head space i feel that i need a legitimate reset.....also they way i see it is this,at the end of yhe day this shit is def going to kill me one way or another,and the more i look into it, it,it is worth the risk...
This is one of many testimonials i have found
Thread 'My Ibogaine Experience' My Ibogaine Experience

And a professional treatment centre that uses ibogaïne is not an option to you? I understand it may involve travelling but nevertheless it could be an option.

 

[strawberriklimaxxx]

I wish traveling is the least of my worries.it is the money i don't have...:/ i found the way to do what i want to do to simply find out the percentage of active alkaloids in the 40 gs but now i can't find it.so using 5 grams (or the smaller amount if doable ,just the minimum needed i guess) to do a extraction to determine how potent what i have is

 

[RitualOpossum]

Just be careful friend, I hope you can come clean and I wish you the best. I hope it works out for you. Certainly deserve a life without substance use disorder. Maybe the risk is worth it and hopefully you can minimize the risks and reduce harms.

Really I caution anyone against flood dose Iboga/ibogaine without professional help - it's a lot of risk. I understand this is a desperate last resort and I understand you have tried other methodologies that haven't panned out viable so I just hope for your safety is all. I wish you could access proper care, truly

keep in touch

also of note..
Did you know that ibogaine can be produced with voacanga africana seeds/rootbark using simple kitchen-style chemistry by converting the voacognine to ibogaine? TEK - Looking for feedback regarding new/proposed Ibogaine extraction from Voacanga.

 

[Neo-shulginist]

I wish traveling is the least of my worries.it is the money i don't have...:/ i found the way to do what i want to do to simply find out the percentage of active alkaloids in the 40 gs but now i can't find it.so using 5 grams (or the smaller amount if doable ,just the minimum needed i guess) to do a extraction to determine how potent what i have is

I get it.. travel + treatment can be really expensive.
Still, I wonder, may it be possible to taper your dosage slowly in preparation of potential treatment? This could stabilize you and help save money for treatment. I realize that it is a lot to ask since the core issue is taking more fent than is good for you. But if you really want to kick the habit, some patience and a plan how to do things differently in the long term may actually help you.

Addiction treatment centers in my area will ironically also ask people in similar situations to continue using, but to stabilize their dosage, so that the treatment can focus on adequate tapering under supervision of a doctor. So pacing yourself ahead of treatment is not uncommon advice.

Iboga is not a miracle drug that will suddenly kill all urge to use anyways. It does provide the unique effect of circumventing opioid withdrawal, and yes, the psychedelic aspect can provide you some insights that may help you staying sober. However, addiction is a complicated disorder, and chasing the high is an important aspect of it. Learning how to deal with those urges whilst choosing healthy behaviours is going to be part of the road to recovery regardless of iboga(ïne).