Using DMT as a method of curing alcohol dependencies?

[temeculove420]

Hi all,

I have yet to be given access to open topics like this in the main discussion board, so I figured this would be the next best place.

My...let's just call her my best friend, is going through a rough patch right now in her life. She and I had been dating for nearly 4 years, and on the eve of the night I was going to propose to her, everything came to an end. This was three months ago, and we still talk frequently and are good friends, but she is struggling.

While I personally view this ordeal as a brief time apart, one of which I have grown inwardly tremendously, she is struggling to find her own spiritual guide. While I'm easier to acclimate to meeting new people who can influence my life, she's quite introverted when it comes to meeting new people. Even though she works in an industry that is all about meeting new people on a daily basis, she more often than not finds herself alone.

She's got the warmest heart of any person I've ever known, but the struggles of issues from our breakup, or other hardships that have happened over the last year have led her to rely on alcohol as a method of escape. We've all heard the story, but she often expresses her desire to completely stop drinking. But being that I am no longer THAT part of her life, I cant be there for her like I used to...at least not until she decides to let me back in.

This is where I'm coming to you.

I want to know if DMT or Magic Mushrooms can be used to help cure addiction, much in the same way Ayahuasca or Iboga are known to? I have personally seen tremendous inward growth by my own methods of practice--involving both the spirit molecule, cannabis & meditation. But are there any recorded rituals, techniques or practices that I could use to guide her down that path, but without making it obvious that I'm trying to "fix her"?

She has tried DMT a few times before and enjoyed it very much, and we're both open to exploring mushrooms (even though it seems difficult to find where Im at).

I know I want to spend the rest of my walking life with her as my wife, but I realize that she needs to get through this part of HER life before we can grow together as one. I love her with all of my heart, and because of this love that I have for her, I am eager and wanting to devote my love and my time ensuring she does not become lost.

Thank you spirit brothers & sisters.

 

[universecannon]

I'm sorry to hear that she's struggling with alcohol but glad to hear you're so dedicated to helping her through it. I haven't been through it personally but it's something that runs through my family.

There is a lot of threads on the topic but technically we can't give medical advice here. If it's a serious alcohol addiction, regardless of whatever else you do as adjunct treatments, I would advise to seek professional help since withdrawals can be life threatening.

 

[GOD]

My opinion ---- >

The shot answer = No .

The second answer is i have never heard of a drug that cures adiction . If people get " cured " it was because they put their psychology in a state that helped them to see what they were doing in another way and stop ....... or it was conditioning = The person was conditioned to believe that they would be cured and got what they had expected . < ---- useing tricks to circumvent ones own psychology ....... why does placebo still work even when we know about it ?

Put simply i think that a person who has psychelogical problems that lead to adiction / are adicted should get profesional help . I dont think that non profesionals doseing or recomending other people with psychelogical problems to dose is a good idea . Theoreticaly = maybe it works or maybe that person frys their mind . The risk for the loved one and the person giveing or sugesting the dose is not worth it .

 

[endlessness]

http://the-nexian.me/home/knowledge/141-trip-to-sobriety-psychedelics-addiction

Quitting opiates/addictive substances - Tips, strategies, complementary tools - Health & Safety - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

Relevant to the topic..

I'd def recommend talking to a professional.

Good luck to your friend!

 

[John Smith]

I find that even light aya doses(sub-visual level) give me enough of a kick to seriously regret any recent binge drinking and set myself straight for a couple of days. I find that the power of suggestion is amplified tremendously on psychedelics in general.

While not a cure, I think with the right intentions it could be used as one of the tools to get sober. I'd say light doses(normal amount of MAOI, low amount of DMT), on a regular basis(couple of times a week) is something worth exploring, especially if combined with other tools such as counselling, acamprosate, etc

 

[PH0Man]

Indeed, a certain Dennis McKenna has done research into the therapeutic potential of ayahuasca /DMT. If you google search "Ayahuasca therapeutic pdf" you'll find a downloadable article about this. Hope it can answer your question?

 

[GOD]

Every person is different = there is no one size fits all cure .

We dont know the person . We dont know her inner and outer set and setting . We wont be there to pick up any possible pieces . Telepathic long distance diagnosies and treatment dont work and in my opinion are iresponsible .

We should remeber the sourcersers aprentice . A little bit of knowledge can be a dangerous thing .

 

[GOD]

temeculove420 ...... i think ......... the only thing that will help her is that she realises whar she is doing and seriously wants to do something about it . We cant force healing .

And that the best thing you can do for her is to be pasively there for her and to listen to her . Then when she needs it advise her to get profesional help . If shes frighetened go with her .

Also think about ---- > The drinking is a symptom / response to something . If for example its something like insecurity you could invite her to an outdoor event ...... where she can come and go when she wants ...... so that without being intrusive you get her willingly in a position where she can get exsperience , learn and grow .

Be carefull . Helping / trying to help people can be hard and have dire consequencies . Important not to help her to more / bigger problems . BIG words = unintrusively and pasively .

 

[universecannon]

Psilocybin and Alcoholism - Help and Advice for Healing - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

 

[Lysurgicoyote]

I don't know if I had a drinking "problem", but I was drinking every day to try and numb depression/PTSD related issues and deal with stress.... Then I pretty much stopped drinking wholesale after my first psychedelic experience (4-aco-dmt). I only drink maybe a couple times a month now, like maybe a glass of wine with a nice dinner or something.

The thought of alcohol is still pleasant, it just feels like something I've "outrgrown" after diving into entheogens. LSD and psilocin basically revealed to me how my alcohol consumption was just slowing me down and dulling my senses.

 

[Auxin]

I would agree with the above general consensus.
Psychedelics dont cure addiction, but if a person is ready and if they are used in an appropriate and timely fashion they can help people see the issue more clearly and see a path out. Its not without danger and its certainly not for everyone, but it works for some.
In contrast to some above suggestions I would be nervous about planning for a routine usage even if the person seems compatible, tho. Addiction and depression are complex critters and even in ideal circumstances, neglecting any step of the preparation-experience-integration spectra of psychedelic experience is unwise. Any time I used psychedelics to help myself find a path out of a rough patch I just went one experience at a time and really made sure I let it sink in before moving on. For myself it was always an individual experience that helped me most in any situation, as opposed to a simple culmination of successive experiences. Psychedelics dont work like antibiotics, lol.