One can say that's where your work lies. But you do you, and I'll do me. This Ape is just sending ideas into the aether here.
I don't know how much fun one can have with aya analogs, but maybe our ideas of fun differ. Anyway, all the best.
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I don't know how much fun one can have with aya analogs, but maybe our ideas of fun differ. Anyway, all the best.
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Thats it, looks like you are finally finding out what the big deal is. I can almost guarantee once you do 2.5g and then hit the vape properly, you will seldom want to go back to straight DMT.
I would say an hour should be enough time to wait after ingesting the rue also.
The need to go to the toilet is common - Rue purifies one inside and out. You need to be a worthy and fitting vessel for the higher dimensional consciousness to work through you and within you.
Purify you virtue, and keep working on yourself and the experiences will deepen. It really is not just about the substance.
Ahh yes, the good ole static sound. Sounds like listening to an old spark gap transmitter through white noise..
I would say that in my experience I almost always need to pass a stool after vaping DMT. Every. single. time.. It happens with or without harmalas and it can be just the smallest amount.
I also agree with @northape, dmt is generally the source of cold feelings. Only time I've felt cold on harmalas was a 350mg dose of full spectrum harmalas, equivalent to about 6g worth of seeds. I also don't think of dmt + harmalas as very fun necessarily, sometimes almost the anti-thesis of fun
but a meaningful journey into the soul which is most certainly not always comfortable, absolutely.
I would say that in my experience I almost always need to pass a stool after vaping DMT. Every. single. time.. It happens with or without harmalas and it can be just the smallest amount.
I also agree with @northape, dmt is generally the source of cold feelings. Only time I've felt cold on harmalas was a 350mg dose of full spectrum harmalas, equivalent to about 6g worth of seeds. I also don't think of dmt + harmalas as very fun necessarily, sometimes almost the anti-thesis of fun
but a meaningful journey into the soul which is most certainly not always comfortable, absolutely.
There's the TnT Vodka TEK, I've only got around to 1 experience on this so far but laying still and not moving fast were all that was needed to avoid nausea.
TBF I've no issue with drinking the powder other than its a slow come on - which has not been an issue for me so far. I now have FB powder which I could use under the tongue if I need it quick.
Far as I am aware the advantage of tea over eating the powder is that its quicker?
Far as I am aware the advantage of tea over eating the powder is that its quicker?
Experiment 6
2.4g of SR powdered, taken in capsules
After 80 mins I feel lightheaded. I take 2 tokes of the DMT and it lasts for around 10 minutes. I take another and it lasts for about 20 minutes - its definitely more than just a standard DMT toke but very subtle in terms of how it lasts/feels.
I lay in bed for about another 30 mins and then go downstairs to eat. I feel light headed still (not in a good way, tired and a little off balance, appetite not good).
The light headed feeling overall lasts over 4hrs 30 mins and I go to bed.
I still had the static noise for most of the period - I put that down to the SR as I am sure it has started before the DMT but I dunno if the DMT makes it linger. I know people say they get a buzzing sound when they do DMT. I always have music on so I can't be sure if the DMT makes it worse.
I would say the 2g I had before was probably just as strong if not stronger so a little variation there in strength.
Note: I can generally tell if the DMT has worn off in one of 3 ways
- if I close my eyes and put my hands over my eyes, if there is any colour other than black
- if i look at WhatsApp on my phone and the letters are more vibrant than normal
- if i look at the (white) ceiling and I can see little dots - this is probably the least accurate as eyes can play tricks
2.4g of SR powdered, taken in capsules
After 80 mins I feel lightheaded. I take 2 tokes of the DMT and it lasts for around 10 minutes. I take another and it lasts for about 20 minutes - its definitely more than just a standard DMT toke but very subtle in terms of how it lasts/feels.
I lay in bed for about another 30 mins and then go downstairs to eat. I feel light headed still (not in a good way, tired and a little off balance, appetite not good).
The light headed feeling overall lasts over 4hrs 30 mins and I go to bed.
I still had the static noise for most of the period - I put that down to the SR as I am sure it has started before the DMT but I dunno if the DMT makes it linger. I know people say they get a buzzing sound when they do DMT. I always have music on so I can't be sure if the DMT makes it worse.
I would say the 2g I had before was probably just as strong if not stronger so a little variation there in strength.
Note: I can generally tell if the DMT has worn off in one of 3 ways
- if I close my eyes and put my hands over my eyes, if there is any colour other than black
- if i look at WhatsApp on my phone and the letters are more vibrant than normal
- if i look at the (white) ceiling and I can see little dots - this is probably the least accurate as eyes can play tricks
Trying to shackle raw rue and fit it into your desired timeframe will never work. You'll have more luck with extract, especially sublingually. Raw seeds are about freedom and will take you on a journey. One needs to feel rue at least once in life, imo - purging from both ends for half a night and feeling grateful to be alive in the morning. Maybe it's just me, but people try to control too much nowadays 
I'm pretty relaxed about the timings for these experiments. My aim is to have the SR and then vape within 90-120 minutes.
I may go up in weight for the SR to see how it hits at higher doses, but I have been to +15 ayahuasca ceremonies this year and I don't really need or want that sort of hardcore experience at home - I've experienced it more than enough times. The aya has always been from the Brazilian forest and it hits hard.
I may go up in weight for the SR to see how it hits at higher doses, but I have been to +15 ayahuasca ceremonies this year and I don't really need or want that sort of hardcore experience at home - I've experienced it more than enough times. The aya has always been from the Brazilian forest and it hits hard.
Haha, I took this entrance exam a few years back with a potent 10g rue tea simmered for two hours. Ended lying on the bathroom floor, drenched in sweat, after having emptied myself from both ends. Memorable.
So you know what's up. Rue is gentler than caapi, imo. Brazilian vine is indeed extremely purgative. I'd love to hear your stories if you have time and are willing to share. Your main issue with rue is that seed material digests at different speeds and takes longer than both tea and extract.
My first-ever rue tea was 4g, and I purged like 10-15 times during the night. I was constantly drinking water like a dumbass, too
This, + the capsules who add randomness in absorption too. That's why even for extracts I don't use them anymore.
