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Science paper Vaporhuasca for 4 people, how much siryan seeds?

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I'm going to a psychedelic weekend with 3 friends, I was thinking : day 1) LSD+ketamine and day2) Vaporhuasca with siryan seeds tea and free DMT hits through an RTA.

Usually I make a tea with 3 grams seeds, a cup of water and don't redose. In this case I would like to have the option to take more MAOI after few hours and I would prepare more tea for everyone but I can't figure out the quantity of seeds and water to put on...
 
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Not really an science paper 😉 but I think that it would be best to end up with a very clear indication on what you’re taking at the moment so for example, I would do the extract of 1 g per full shot glass so that whenever you’re taking more, you will know how much is there approximately in the glass. So you started out with taking three shots and then you can add one or two or three depending on your mood and you will still know how much you have taken.

Good luck, oral harmalas and an dmt vape are my favorite combination🤩
 
Varallo said:
Not really an science paper 😉 but I think that it would be best to end up with a very clear indication on what you’re taking at the moment so for example, I would do the extract of 1 g per full shot glass so that whenever you’re taking more, you will know how much is there approximately in the glass. So you started out with taking three shots and then you can add one or two or three depending on your mood and you will still know how much you have taken.

Good luck, oral harmalas and an dmt vape are my favorite combination🤩
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so for example, if a put 20grams I should put 20 glass no matter how much it will end up because the vaporization the ratio will be always the same
(hey are u italian by any chance)
 
Just make your extract as usual, then measure the volume of one glass, then measure the volume of your extracts and calculate the amount of water you need to add to get to 1 g per glass.
 
Varallo said:
Just make your extract as usual, then measure the volume of one glass, then measure the volume of your extracts and calculate the amount of water you need to add to get to 1 g per glass.
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cool... how often would u suggest to redose?
 
I would use 24 grams of syrian rue seeds, boiled down to about 400 ml of water. This is enough for 8, 3 gram doses, with 50 ml of liquid being one 3 gram dose. Then to measure out the dose for consumption, just use some sort of graduated container, pour out 50 ml and it should be quite precise. For a re-dose, use another 50 ml, consuming some or all of it.

I would say re-dosing the harmalas maybe after 3 or 4 hours, probably not sooner.

Better yet I wouldn't make tea at all with the rue, but would powderize it and pack it into gel caps. Its more consistent and powerful this way IME.

Hope your psychedelic weekend is good, if you haven't already had it! :)
 
Varallo said:
Not really an science paper 😉 but I think that it would be best to end up with a very clear indication on what you’re taking at the moment so for example, I would do the extract of 1 g per full shot glass so that whenever you’re taking more, you will know how much is there approximately in the glass. So you started out with taking three shots and then you can add one or two or three depending on your mood and you will still know how much you have taken.

Good luck, oral harmalas and an dmt vape are my favorite combination🤩
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Out of curiosity, how much longer do oral harmalas extend the vaporized DMT experience? I’m interested in trying this.
 
BecometheOther said:
Better yet I wouldn't make tea at all with the rue, but would powderize it and pack it into gel caps. Its more consistent and powerful this way IME.
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I second this.
it also means you can be minimal on the liquids so digestive juices are less diluted and nausea should be minimized.
I had no side-effects with 2.5g powdered in capsules chased with just a little bit of grated fresh ginger tea, such that I wasn't even sure if it was going to work until it did...

New Sneakers said:
Out of curiosity, how much longer do oral harmalas extend the vaporized DMT experience? I’m interested in trying this.
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for me, it turned what has only ever been a 5-10 minute experience previously into a 1-2 hour one.


I'll repeat that dose again before I try one where I redose. or maybe try a second spice dose to see how long the second one lasts on the remaining inhibition before I attempt to extend it.

I waited exactly 2 hours before spice, because capsules might delay digestion by 20-40 minutes compared to tea (where they'd normally suggest a 60-90 min wait). if I was going to redose, I'd do it at that 2 hour mark just before the spice, since I don't think I'll have any nausea etc. to worry about, as that should overlap pretty well. But if I was trying a higher initial dose more like ayehuasca (maybe 300mg actives instead of 150) I wouldn't redose so soon, or at least I'd suspect that the afterglow would still be persisting longer.
 
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