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Vaporized DiPT

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From what information I could find online, it seems that the most common ROAs for DiPT (diisopropyltryptamine) are oral or insufflation, lasting for around 4-6 hours. Since I was simply "testing the waters" I opted for what erowid considers a "light" oral dose of 20mg, but I decided that 4-6 hours might be a bit too long for just trying out this novel tryptamine, so I had the idea that I would try to vaporize it under the assumption that it would probably not last as long as the oral estimate...and I'll get back to that soon.

So I loaded up 20mg DiPT HCl onto a bed of ash on top of some screens in the GVG. It had a strong tryptamine flavor (tasted more liked smoked DMT as opposed to vaped DMT though I didn't add too much heat, so I don't think I was burning it) and it was considerably less harsh on the lungs than DMT. It was very easy to hold in, and upon release, the density of the exhaled vapor suggested it was not absorbed as efficiently by the lungs as DMT when there is a clear, transparent release. I took two full hits.

It came on rather instantly like DMT, but without the mounting visual activity. It was ramping up in some other ways. There was a shift in everything taking on a bit of the DMT aesthetic like my hands look a bit like they do on DMT, but there was no fractal goodness to be found. Upon closing the eyes there were extremely mild CEVs - no more than heavy cannabis would induce. I began sweating and my hands became extremely clammy. The energy in the air was heavy, and it was a little borderline overwhelming at first, but I stood my ground. There was this uncomfortable sensation at the back of my throat that very tiny gas bubbles kept on squirming their way up, and I found it difficult to release that tension which made me slightly anxious, but it subsided after not too long. At first, I was quite aware of my heartbeat which would get much faster and then slower at faster rates of alternation than normal. There was a very slight, but not painful head tension, though this could have been from my constrictive headphones.

I sat for a minute or two to see if any auditory hallucinations would kick in, and I got a little impatient, and decided I would try and calm myself by listening to music and take advantage of detecting how it affected music. I put on my headphones. The first song I listened to had no drastic alteration. There was a sort of increased appreciation and slight thickening of the musical texture, as one might expect from DMT...when the second song came on, I began laughing it sounded so funny. Everything was getting down-shifted in pitch. The singers sounded like they were in the witness protection program in a television interview. The pitch was quite unstable, so it wasn't simply like hearing everything in a lower key. Familiar melodies were only recognizable because of just how familiar I am with them, but sounded little like the original. I tried to sing along with the singers, and it was so off, it was making me giggle. My voice itself sounded super low, and I had no way of telling at all if I was matching pitch or coming anywhere close. Throughout the day, I felt like I was genuinely talking with a lower voice a lot of the time because my vocal cords seemed to be compensating in an attempt to match my own voice I was hearing.

I decided to go out for a walk, and took my headphones with me. As I was walking around, not listening to music, I decided to do a small experiment. The DiPT so readily affected the sounds I was hearing, but how would it affect my thoughts? I attempted to imagine the singing of some familiar lyrics by particularly high pitched singers in my head (a simple ordinary task) and I was completely unable to keep the pitch stable. Pitch was about as unstable as static physical visual objects can be from more visual tryptamiines. Even in my imagination, everything was unstably getting downshifted. It was kinda funny cause my sense of pitch in one sense didn't seem affected because I still had a sense of what was supposed to be right, I just wouldn't perceive it that way.

So as I proceeded to walk around, it was a nice sunny day, and I decided to put the headphones back on. Now at this point in time, I notice that there is a kind of ring-modulator effect that is heavily coloring everything. The music sounded quite metallic, hollow, low and resonant. Instrumental music was a nice silly "detour" as it sounded like I was sort of on the inside of a slot machine. The ring-modulator effect persisted for the duration of the experience, and was the last noticeable effect to wear off. There was what felt like a bit of the electric edge to LSD, particularly in my feet, though I also felt compelled to constantly be on the move, and not sitting still all too well which is not very common of DMT for me for example.

I came back in the house and briefly turned on the TV to see how the common voices would sound. The original Star Wars movie was on, and I found it funny how everyone sounded really weird...except for Darth Vader whose voice was already so incredibly low, and metallic that no distortion was detected :lol:

I quickly turned off the television, and proceeded to resume my musical experiments. I picked up my guitar and god did it sound awful. Major chords kinda sounded like odd augmented chords, making most tonal music unplayable and diminished chords sounded like complete garbage. When I employed some of my more "fantastical", semi-tonal playing, it was pretty cool, but playing any tonal music was just a bit too hard to listen to, so I put down the guitar. I then listened to a harp concerto and found it amusing that the strings sounded quite distorted, but sounded quasi-natural - almost like the way the harp music I hear in hyperspace from DMT sounds, so it provided a kind of quaint, tinny texture. All in all music ranged from discordant to oddly harmonious in some wonky fashion.

So that brings me to this whole matter of vaporization. My plan was to vaporize it in hopes of having a short experience...that did not turn out to be the case. Even with vaporizing those two hits of 20mg, the experience lasted for 7 hours, exceeding the oral estimate by an hour! Now of course, had I taken it orally, it may have lasted even longer maybe from 8-10 hours. It's hard to say. My guess is that since it was orally active without an MAOI, it makes sense that even with the vaporization ROA, it would still last quite the while, being more impervious to the body's metabolism than DMT. It is on that note that I caution the reader that if you choose to go this route, you are signing up for what can most likely result in a very strange and extended experience. It is not as endearing as DMT to me, but I think it could have a nice application for a long hike in nature. I would strongly advise against taking it at your favorite band's concert or something along those lines. All in all, I would say that I peaked within the first two to four minutes and remained there for about 6 hours or so. At the final hour my sense of pitch gradually returned to normal, with the ring modulator effect taking even longer and slower to diminish.
 
I wanted to add an addendum of some thoughts I was going over in chat today. I suppose this is a bit more on the integrative end of the experience. The DiPT makes me appreciate the chemical level on which we can appreciate/understand music as human beings. When you wonder about what dogs or other animals hear when they listen to our music, it makes sense that they could be perceiving the same frequencies differently in perhaps an analogous manner to how they allegedly perceive light frequencies differently as a result of their individual anatomies and brain chemistry.

It also makes me appreciate the stability of our pitch recognition in every day life, just like coming back to the stability of material reality after a long visual trip can do the same. The experience has made me more empathetic with the seriously tone deaf people out there. There are accounts of some people, who when they hear music, to them all it sounds like is clamoring pots and pans. They don't process the music the same (although speech can remain oddly unaffected!) and so it's interesting to be put in similar shoes for a few hours. It's no wonder these unfortunate few of the population mostly resent music.

The next time I take DiPT, I intend on combining it with DMT. I did not take enough for any full-blown audio hallucinations, and so I'm curious if they will make audio hallucinations more common when combined with DMT, and how the two might synergize or possibly even work against each other. I might guess that since hyperspace and sound are so inextricably linked IME, that if the DiPT pitch shifts the DMT audio, then that might result in novel shifting (or breakdown) of hyperspace as a guess. In other words, a lot of times when DMT audio is present, it is clear that it is somehow linked to the visual activity. External audio can modulate the experience as well, and so I have long hypothesized that hyperspace (or the entities...or however they both intermingle together) create the various sounds to facilitate their own motion and activity. So if DMT were to produce audio that the DiPT were to pitch shift, then I imagine that this may have an effect on the DMT imagery. Being that pitch seemed so incredibly unstable with just the DiPT, I see it has possible to create quite the unstable effect on DMT's visual hyperspace. [edit]: The most extreme form of instability could lead to a complete breakdown of hyperspace. Imagine a compact mechanical clock - all the gears tightly encased...and then something externally ruptures that shell and all the gears come spilling out...I see that as a sort of possibility here as well, and I've invoked the process (accidentally) in hyperspace on other occasions, but time will tell what their interaction will be like.
 
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