Vaporizing Freebase while on Caapi

[jungleDNBplz]

Have you ever drank a brew of caapi (with or without DMT-containing admixtures) and smoked any amount of vaporized DMT freebase after the brew kicked in?

What amount did you smoke?

Approximately how many grams of caapi did you make your brew with?

Was the message of the trip more easily remembered than without the MAOI effect?

Was the trip more tactile?

In the next few days I'm planning to drink a brew made of about 50g of McKenna's red caapi (shredded) and vaporize 50mg of crystal. I'll probably smoke the 50mg slowly, allowing myself to adjust for 30 seconds to a minute between each lungfull. But I may dive into it with 4 big consecutive lungfulls depending on positive responses.

I'll report back =)

 

[Parshvik Chintan]

there are many reports of this on the nexus if you look around.

also 50mg properly vaped is too much for some WITHOUT MAOI (i'm no small fella and its a good 2 breakthrough doses for me)

that being said it is a very good method of administration, and some people's preferred method.

also many people vape changa after an aya brew that just wasn't quite as deep as they wanted to go (or if it was a dud)

 

[Michal_R]

...In the next few days I'm planning to drink a brew made of about 50g of McKenna's red caapi (shredded) and vaporize 50mg of crystal. I'll probably smoke the 50mg slowly...

I did Harmalas + smoked freebase a couple of times, but I am taking a break from this method for a while... Please be careful with this. Note that oral MAOIs potentiate smoked freebase up to 3 times (and I think possibly even more times!) Are you sure you are ready for 150mg? (Please don´t do this, unless you are both very experienced in this area and know your tolerance very well). Or do you have extremely high tolerance to smoked DMT?

If you are new to this, I suggest not smoking more than 10mg for the first time; don´t worry, you can allways smoke some more 20-30minutes later. At 15mgs, I had experienced the most difficult and dark experience in my life so far...

50mg without MAOIs would be "lethal" overdose for me. 30mgs, when vaporized properly (GVG etc), without MAOIs can be a ticket to hyperspace for most fellow travellers.

Be safe :thumb_up:

 

[Parshvik Chintan]

30mgs, when vaporized properly (GVG etc), without MAOIs can be a ticket to hyperspace for most fellow travellers.

i would even say 30 is on the higher end.
20-25 is not uncommon.

 

[jungleDNBplz]

I'm fairly experienced with freebase, and while I've not combined it with oral MAOI's, on almost every journey I smoke a lot of Syrian Rue seeds. I've smoked a 50-70mg dose probably about 10 times, and 20-40mg doses probably over 50 times. I've absolutely never had a bad trip.

For me, there are at least 3 levels of "breakthrough" so the word "breakthrough dose" doesn't mean that much to me personally.

The reason I made this thread and the reason I'm planning this next trip is because I've found the quality of the trip to be enhanced greatly by a *smoked* dose of MAOI's beforehand.

My usual launching method is to sit and establish my intention, i.e what I'm going to ask hyperspace to give me. Then for the next 15 or so minutes I smoke back-to-back bowls of Syrian Rue until I feel like I have the balls to take courageous rips of freebase.

I've found that with smoked MAOI's beforehand, the freebase trip is much longer and much more tactile. It feels like the visions are morphing with my pupils, and on several occasions I've "jizzed" out of my pupils and splooged the contents of my mind which is a very cleansing feeling.

I can't remember the last time I've smoked freebase without smoking Syrian Rue beforehand.

I've drank ayahuasca 2 times without admixture and 1 time with. I'm expecting the oral MAOI's from the Caapi brew to have a similar but much more pronounced effect on the freebase trip than smoked Syrian Rue.

 

[Felnik]

Caapi tea with vaped spice can be a whole other level. Some of my most powerful experiences were with this method. Black caapi seems to be the strongest from my experience.

It seems to depend on the potency of the particular vine. Some vine is super strong while others are not strong at all in other words All black caapi vine is the same in terms of potency.

One important tid bit I've noticed is that when you drink a strong caapi tea then vape some spice maybe 30 to 60 minutes later you really forget what happened and can even forget how you got so wacked out. The tea is a total game changer in this equation.