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VG VaporGenie: How to use, where to get, advantages, etc
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Trickster said:
Wouldn't that destroy the whole point of using a GVG?
amor_fati said:
Don't know. I've never tried this combination.
With a bong or a glass pipe it produces such a smooth vapor that I simply do not feel the need to buy the GVG.
There may be a problem with GVG + heat gun combo due to insufficient heat from a heat gun because there is no flame and the air temp is 650 C tops.
One of these days I will add a ceramic filter to one of my glass pipes and check how it works with heat guns.
Trickster said:
All a heat gun is is a butane torch with a ceramic filter, so since the GVG already has a ceramic filter, all one needs is a flame. It would seem that at best, use of a heat gun would be redundant, and at worst insufficient as a heat source. SWIM used to consider that a heat gun would be a great alternative to a VG, but he couldn't stand the taste of the exhaust, which could be due to the quality of the heat gun (SWIM suspects his filter is too open and doesn't restrict airflow enough to provide adequate combustion) or possibly the close proximity of the flame to the filter (close enough to be flameless).
i'm so sorry to get back so late on this guys... i took some photos though just to inspire... 
the volcano pads are awesome. once properly installed you are set. done. perfection for the pure spice purist. here are a coupla things to expect when setting it up...
1. you only need one pad. you get 2 with an order.
2. you only cut it in half ONCE. trust me on this.
so... you take your little pad and cut it in half. do this over a paper towel or trash can as a little pile of metal sprinklings will result. take one half of your pad and physically squash it in half. the thing turns out to be farly mailiable once you've squished it in half. squish and mold to the perfect VG size and insert. i personally left my 6 screens in ther as well as they kind of form a bed to squish the pad into and provide insurance against inhaling a renegade sprinkle. church.
do the exact thing with the other half and pack it in there on top of the first guy. i found myself walking around my crib packing it down nice and snug with my finger for maximal compression. this makes it hold the spice better AND provides the critical gap between the top cap that keeps your sacrament from getting smooshed.
this works so good, it is my full-time spice-only key. you will lose not a drop of your spice and it will not burn. i think those are pretty much the only two things we are looking for when it comes to this endeavor. i love this set-up with all my hearts.
L&G!!
note: the resin in the photos is from use before converting. there has been no additional leakage since converting it. in truth, my leaf blends are way more drippy and tough to contain. maybe a GVG could be modified to have just 1/2 a pad on top of the screens to create a larger gap for leaf blends....trust me, those pads are very dense!
the volcano pads are awesome. once properly installed you are set. done. perfection for the pure spice purist. here are a coupla things to expect when setting it up...
1. you only need one pad. you get 2 with an order.
2. you only cut it in half ONCE. trust me on this.
so... you take your little pad and cut it in half. do this over a paper towel or trash can as a little pile of metal sprinklings will result. take one half of your pad and physically squash it in half. the thing turns out to be farly mailiable once you've squished it in half. squish and mold to the perfect VG size and insert. i personally left my 6 screens in ther as well as they kind of form a bed to squish the pad into and provide insurance against inhaling a renegade sprinkle. church.
do the exact thing with the other half and pack it in there on top of the first guy. i found myself walking around my crib packing it down nice and snug with my finger for maximal compression. this makes it hold the spice better AND provides the critical gap between the top cap that keeps your sacrament from getting smooshed.
this works so good, it is my full-time spice-only key. you will lose not a drop of your spice and it will not burn. i think those are pretty much the only two things we are looking for when it comes to this endeavor. i love this set-up with all my hearts.
L&G!!
note: the resin in the photos is from use before converting. there has been no additional leakage since converting it. in truth, my leaf blends are way more drippy and tough to contain. maybe a GVG could be modified to have just 1/2 a pad on top of the screens to create a larger gap for leaf blends....trust me, those pads are very dense!
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@ antrocles – get busy and clean that GVG! (If you use the oil pad with pure spice, the only residue you’ll get will be the purest of pure white condensate.)
A question: you have a very thick layer there! When I use copper mesh, I try to keep it as thin as possible – maybe 1/8” thick or so. I do this because I noticed that a dose can get “lost” in a thicker piece. Liquid DMT will flow from a hot spot to a cooler spot, so if there are any cooler spots in that thick plug, that’s where the DMT will go.
What this means in practice is that you’ll load up a dose, vaporize it completely, and get less than anticipated. Then if you go back later and vaporize again, you’ll get a bit more, etc.
With a thin pad, the entire dose can be quickly vaporized in a single hit, with none of it “hiding” in a cool spot.
Have you noticed a problem with such a thick piece?
(If you use the oil pad with pure spice, the only residue you’ll get will be the purest of pure white condensate.)A question: you have a very thick layer there! When I use copper mesh, I try to keep it as thin as possible – maybe 1/8” thick or so. I do this because I noticed that a dose can get “lost” in a thicker piece. Liquid DMT will flow from a hot spot to a cooler spot, so if there are any cooler spots in that thick plug, that’s where the DMT will go.
What this means in practice is that you’ll load up a dose, vaporize it completely, and get less than anticipated. Then if you go back later and vaporize again, you’ll get a bit more, etc.
With a thin pad, the entire dose can be quickly vaporized in a single hit, with none of it “hiding” in a cool spot.
Have you noticed a problem with such a thick piece?
MySmelf
Rising Star
gibran2 said:@ antrocles – get busy and clean that GVG!
A question: you have a very thick layer there! When I use copper mesh, I try to keep it as thin as possible – maybe 1/8” thick or so. I do this because I noticed that a dose can get “lost” in a thicker piece. Liquid DMT will flow from a hot spot to a cooler spot, so if there are any cooler spots in that thick plug, that’s where the DMT will go.
What this means in practice is that you’ll load up a dose, vaporize it completely, and get less than anticipated. Then if you go back later and vaporize again, you’ll get a bit more, etc.
With a thin pad, the entire dose can be quickly vaporized in a single hit, with none of it “hiding” in a cool spot.
Have you noticed a problem with such a thick piece?
I agree with this.
I only trimmed the edges of the pad just enough to shove down in the pipe, keeping the original thickness. its a 1/4 inch thick at the most and not a drop of spice escapes. It vaporizes very quickly, I don't even pre-melt it into the pad. I just dump the crystals in, close the top and vap. One big slow inhale and I'm in hyperspace!
version 2.0. i removed the second 1/2 pad and cleaned that filthy beast! now we shall see if any does escape...
i personally never had an issue with spice 'getting trapped' in cooler parts of a pad. i've got my technique pretty dialed and was able to get every drop out of my spice loaded in...but i do have to agree- having that extra space allows for some big fellas to crawl into my GVG! i got a picture of one that snuck in there right after i cleaned it.... not sure what i should do with him...
L&G!!
i personally never had an issue with spice 'getting trapped' in cooler parts of a pad. i've got my technique pretty dialed and was able to get every drop out of my spice loaded in...but i do have to agree- having that extra space allows for some big fellas to crawl into my GVG! i got a picture of one that snuck in there right after i cleaned it.... not sure what i should do with him...
L&G!!
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gratefulfloyd
Rising Star
Bought a classic VG from the shop down the street and it is amazing. I must have been wasting a lot, because now a smaller dose rocks me hard, and usually if I load 60 mg its enough to breakthrough once and then a good sub breakthrough.... love it.
Tordyveln
Rising Star
Now I've ordered an Al Bat, I guess I'll have to find out for myself. I've read that a lot of people use torch lighters with their glass VGs. Would they work with aluminium? Or are there other lighters that burn away all the butane? I would not like to inhale butane and keep it in my lungs for several seconds.
Electric.Sight
Rising Star
I've not tried the GVG or any VG for that matter. However I'm extremely curious; how come they haven't invented the GVG bong stem yet? Seems too easy to do and there's a chance I'd actually spend the cash for something like that. $100 on a pipe is hard to justify, even if it's the best pipe around. Something I could use with multiple bongs has much more appeal to me.
Electric.Sight said:
here ya go show me your glass, baby!! - Open Discussion - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus , madcap used his GVG difuser with a bong. If I remember it correct he said that it didnt do anything special used in a bong, the GVG is so smooth.
Here is another thread that might be of interest to you Vapor genie bong? - Vaping/Smoking - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus
The GVG is sooooo worth the $100.
With the right technique could you load the GVG up with around 120mg and vape it slow?
I'm really finding the best way to take DMT is to have it bit by bit and each time take a little more, this way you propell yourself out of your body rather than uncomfortably blast off
The only other way i see of doing this is using the volcano and taking as much as you want from the bag & each time take a bigger inhale, although then if you did want to finish it in one toke, which usually does happen, that wouldn't be possible with the volcano
I'm really finding the best way to take DMT is to have it bit by bit and each time take a little more, this way you propell yourself out of your body rather than uncomfortably blast off
The only other way i see of doing this is using the volcano and taking as much as you want from the bag & each time take a bigger inhale, although then if you did want to finish it in one toke, which usually does happen, that wouldn't be possible with the volcano
Cool, so for what im looking to do it would probly be best to have doses that increase in size premeasured that can be loaded/reloaded at will... its just that reloading is kinda distracting, maybe im just being a pussy i just feel that building up to it is really beneficial to make sure you don't do too much too fast
True, i could just keep using changa in the GVG, the idea of using pure white crystal in there is just very appealing, especially as it won't get resiny & dirty apart from white crystal condensation.
I think i'll just have a play around with the GVG once i get it, im sure ill find my sweet spot eventually
I think i'll just have a play around with the GVG once i get it, im sure ill find my sweet spot eventually