Vibrations

[DeltaSpice]

I had an experience recently that doesn't make sense in any way and I'm wondering if anyone else can identified with it.
Over the last months I have switched from Rue Alkaloids to Vine Alkaloids.
This is all Changa related by the way.
The Rue nearly always gave me lots of CEV's with God Code. I'd say that Rue has a connection to the Great Architect. This makes sense to me as it is from God country, the middle east.
Vine is much more interesting to me, she is there and it seems to be a stronger, deeper and a longer lasting experience with less CEV's.

Recently I smoked some Changa , lay down, blind fold on.
I was shown indescribable things of beauty and I knew that this was gonna be quite a strong experience, so I hit the mute button on my music. Music is a no no for me when its a strong experience.
After hitting mute I could hear a distant hum and feel the vibration of it.
I am familiar with this noise/feeling and to me it signifies them, Aliens. Maybe to others it signifies entities? I love this noise / feeling it has Alien written all over it .
This time it started to get louder and louder, slowly. The vibrations got more intense, until it completely took over my senses. It was super loud and vibrating in my head.
My CEV had turned to a wall of bright yellow and I was no longer aware of being on my bed or of self.
Some time later I came too on my bed and I felt spent, I had a slight head ache and I felt like I'd been through the mill.
I first felt this humming a few years ago when smoking enhanced leaf so its not vine related.
I'm pretty sure its not the carrier wave, that seems to be short and sharp and then bingo your off.
This is some thing else, I think...
Has anyone else experienced this and what could it be.

Also when I smoke vine Changa and I'm nearing the end of the experience I get waves that go through my brain and I feel them strongly. Short lived , some times from left to right ,visa versa and from the back to front.
A strong one can near enough end a session as its a bit of a jolt.

I just read this back to myself and I sound like a nutter

 

[Jin]

kundalini awakening

 

[universecannon]

All kinds of bizarre electric/humming/frequencies/vibrations/prana/kundalini/chi type experiences are very common place with DMT, especially if harmalas are involved. With harmalas I hear a lot of very strange things. I like the alien nintendo sounds that begin in the imagination and end in actual perception.

"I'm pretty sure its not the carrier wave, that seems to be short and sharp and then bingo your off."

That was my experience at first but then things definitely changed over time.

But the question of what all of this "is" and what does it all "mean"? That's anyone's guess, but I avoid conclusions and prefer to just entertain many possibilities and let the experience speak for itself.

 

[DeltaSpice]

I do find that conclusions change over time but that is the fun part of this whole business, contemplating the implications .
My first thought was that those Aliens did some thing to me, but I like the kundalini awakening theory, Spiritual Awakening sounds nice.

 

[Bancopuma]

"This time it started to get louder and louder, slowly. The vibrations got more intense, until it completely took over my senses. It was super loud and vibrating in my head.
My CEV had turned to a wall of bright yellow and I was no longer aware of being on my bed or of self."

Minus the DMT component, this could also very easily pass for the description of an initiation of an out of body experience.

 

[Jin]

"This time it started to get louder and louder, slowly. The vibrations got more intense, until it completely took over my senses. It was super loud and vibrating in my head.
My CEV had turned to a wall of bright yellow and I was no longer aware of being on my bed or of self."

Minus the DMT component, this could also very easily pass for the description of an initiation of an out of body experience.

yes this is true

kundalini is just an esoteric description of the word energy , kundalini means energy

during conscious Obe's the energy within the body is made to vibrate higher and stronger until an Obe happens , obviously there are other techniques aswell

kundalini awakening = energy awakening

what this means is becoming aware of the energy within , there is no awakening of the energy per say , it just the awakening of the individual to the energy within

the energy has always been aware , it about the individual waking up and realizing that all is energy , the whole universe is made up of energy and so is the individual

its the energy that walks , sits , runs , reads and writes , when the individual becomes aware that the individual is in reality pure energy , this is called kundalini awakening

then the individual can control and channel this energy to various means like balancing emotions , breath and other vital functions of the body , and this energy can also be channeled to create Obe's

the only issue is that when an individual wakes up to this , its time for trouble , this energy will rip an individual apart or in more factual terms - the realization of this energy will rip an individual apart , obviously after this enligtenment follows

twitches , itches , feelings , moods , breathing patterns , or even any illness - its all manifestations of the energy

the challenging and the wise thing to do at this point is to forget about all this and concentrate on enjoying life and living it rather than concentrating on this energy

there is no need to induce Obe's , astral project or channel this energy in any way

ignore this energy or get to the next level beyond it , dont get stuck at this energetic level , its a health hazard

 

[oversoul1919]

Classical OBE symptoms.

 

[DeltaSpice]

Interesting stuff.
Since around that time, I cant be precise, I cannot tip my head forward without muscular pain near my right shoulder blade. I 've been doing Tramadol which seems to make it worse. Maybe my energy got messed up.
I swim and sauna Mon to Fri so there's no excuse for this.

Concerning OBE and Energies im totally ignorant but Changa has shown me that all things are possible.
Some years ago I had a OBE during a dream. I was above my body, spinning, looking down on it laying on the bed and i was also awaiting the imminent arrive of evil, it was on route and I could feel it. Strange.
So when you have an OBE it normally starts with vibrations?

 

[DeltaSpice]

I did some reading on Kundalini and its interesting (thanks Jin)
I am defiantly showing signs of having an Energy Awakening although only in that I'm feeling negative effects. I'd like to know the positives.

A few moments ago I hit the Changa , lying there listening to music, I decided to hit mute.
Instantly I was aware of a loud buzzing. It was coming from directly if front of me between my eyes. Pineal area it must be.
I sit between 2 speakers and a sub with a quality sound system, im a bit of an audiophile, I love my music and I'm always aware of stereo sound effects and this was right in the middle of my eyes, loud and constant.
Eventually i took my blind fold off and opened my eyes , it weakened slightly but as I concentrated it became louder again.
I dunno what to think now , I think I'd rather be buzzing free and normal-ish :/

 

[Global]

I think I'd rather be buzzing free and normal-ish :/

If you don't jive with those things, then DMT may not be for you

 

[Jin]

I think I'd rather be buzzing free and normal-ish :/

If you don't jive with those things, then DMT may not be for you

this is not a DMT issue atall , infact it has got nothing to do with DMT , these vibrations can come up on any psychedelic or even completely sober

even people who have not done any psychedelics have experienced this , especially meditators and people practicing OBE's

this vibratory effect is most pronounced on cannabis

and the reason is consciousness is moving from simple to the subtle stage

Types versus Stages of Meditation , this webpage has got further details on what is happening as consiousness moves inwards

apparently this subtle stage of consciousness is more hazardous then the simple object stage and moving up in levels upto self inquiry does'nt even help

the only answer is to settle at the pure objectless stage

first conciousness becomes aware of the senses , breath and thoughts

then comes this subtle stage where this energy is experienced ,

then there are stages of bliss and self realization

and ultimately conciousness settles at pure objectlessness , its extremely difficult to reach this state , this is the state where awareness is not aware of anything

at this stage open eyes dont see , ears dont hear , energy is not felt , breath is not observed

this is a state of ultimate realization , where only awareness exist that is pure and aware of nothing

this is the stage at which the meditator has become the meditation

at this stage ultimate automaticity of the being happens , its important to reach this state for anyone experiencing kundalini awakening , as kundalini is only experienced only at lower stages of meditation

at higher stages kundalini/energy is not felt , its discarded

no meditation technique can get one to this stage , no drug can really reach this stage

this is not a state of self realization or enlightenment , this is way beyond

at this stage psychedelics don't even work , a meditator at this stage might smoke DMT and feel nothing , because at this stage awareness will not be aware of the effects of DMT

at this stage awareness discards all sensory and mental data , whether that data comes from being sober or on DMT does not matter as all data will be discarded by conscioussness


at this stage all psychedelics feel like the same substance

at this stage only one state of mind exists whether sober or stoned on any psychedelic

its important to reach this state as kundalini awakening is a hazardous process and moving up slowly in levels doesn't help atall

edit :

also psychedelics are not the most intense thing on the planet ,

every atom that makes up ants to elephants are nuclear , i.e every atom has the power to go nuclear

sitting on a rock flying in space , surrounded by eternity , cleaning dishes and watching t.v as the tectonic plates shift beneath us is everyday reality for most people , so how can psychedelics ever be intense

psychotic thoughts are even scarier than psychedelics ,

comparetively psychedelics are benign

fear the volcanos and earthquakes , not psychedelics

 

[DeltaSpice]

I think I'd rather be buzzing free and normal-ish :/

If you don't jive with those things, then DMT may not be for you

With hindsight what I should have said is: Since this vibrating buzzing Kundalini business started I have had neck and upper back pain and everything seems off, my eating, my moods, my sleep. I cant tip my head forward with out a knife in my back sensation .
I'm no stranger to back issues but never for this length of time and in my neck also.
So I would much rather be as I was before all this started.
I find the vibrating really interesting , its some thing physical as opposed to mental , I think? OK it feels physical.
DMT is for me oh it is it is it is

(Thanks again Jin)