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Views on Charlie Sheen

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tetra said:
This culture of celebrity worship is really quite appalling.

"Dude, I saw this interview with Charlie Sheen yesterday that was totally crazy!"

"What?"

"Charlie Sheen--"

"Oh, wait, shut up, I don't care. I saw the endless choirs of angels last night on DMT. Have fun re-watching You Tube clips."
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celebrity worship is the new church for the masses. They cant get enough of it. Its v disturbing.
I mean, HOW can anybody be interested in Paris Hilton or Brittany Spears etc. it says something about who we are !
People love to see a fall from grace in the same way people cant help but look at a car crash.

the Charlie Sheen thing is a bit more interesting as he has many valid points amongst his scattershot commentary on "things"
 
You must have watched some interviews I didn't. I haven't seen any valid points. Entertaining sound bites, for sure - but all I see is the world's biggest asshole in narcissistic overdrive, publicly losing his mind.
 
Uncle Knucles said:
You must have watched some interviews I didn't. I haven't seen any valid points. Entertaining sound bites, for sure - but all I see is the world's biggest asshole in narcissistic overdrive, publicly losing his mind.
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yes ok he is clearly in the midst of some sort of transformation.
But you can see the time he has spent in altered states has opened pandoras box.

he is carrying on in a David Ickian fashion almost, conspiracy theories, conciousness-babble etc.

I have seen 2 interviews. I see a man in the midst of a physical and mental breakdown with some very interesting observations from the edge.
 
Tor von der Van said:
Things getting worse rapidly. How does someone like this turn his life around?
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Hoffmann's 25, worked for me. After years of drinking, addictivness, and constantly facing the dark side of alcohol, now i barely think of it, probably only when it comes in context, like now :)
 
I see a marginally talented human turd with too much attention, money and privilege - abusing women, neglecting his children and failing to honor his professional obligations. I don't see any interesting observations coming out of him. I admit I am interested in observing his meltdown, but that's really not quite the same thing. Excess, in and of itself, doesn't necessarily lead to enlightenment.

The sound bites are very funny though. I liked when he said that he's an F-18... even when he's napping.
 
Emilio Estevez FTW!

Seriously though, no one should care about this crap, although the quote Bananaforeskin posted was HILARIOUS. There are people way worst than this guy, and people way better, what makes us give a damn about this Charlie Sheen in particular anyway? Just because he's a celeb... It's ridiculous. Way more interesting people on the Nexus, or even just down the block...

Given a taste of ego dissolution Charlie Sheen would no longer have a face to melt off. Then again I don't know the guy, I just know of him.
 
I just hope no one sees him as a representative of anyone but himself. He seems to have decided he doesn't care what anyone thinks, and his odd personality is the result. What are you gonna do?
 
Apoc said:
I just hope no one sees him as a representative of anyone but himself. He seems to have decided he doesn't care what anyone thinks, and his odd personality is the result. What are you gonna do?
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I think he is a representative of the whole celebrity disease.

idolisation, celebrity, wealth, superficial dopamine based drugs like coke and depressants like booze.

I doubt he is enjoying the ride any more. Very sad.
 
When I think of Charlie Sheen, I usually view
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Everyone seems to be saying that he is a celebrity as if that makes him not important.....wtf? So he is obviously not as enlightened as a nexian, just yet, maybe never, but he is still on our side and that's beautiful. Obviously the man is coming into what we are all coming into together as people, and the more celebrities we have on our side, the sooner everyone wakes up. This is incredible in my opinion. I mean he's saying a lot, probably as much as he can without getting killed, remember they can't truly express their own opinions, they can't go on tv saying anything about the NWO or whatever you want to call it. This is the best he can do, and they are trying their best to make him look crazy. The man is definitely going through an intense time, but aren't we all? We are all a victim in this system, maybe he wasn't for a long time....but they now have fucked him. He even mentions the "suits" coming in and trying to shut him down. Even says very important people are on his side, good people.

just because we smoke dmt actually doesnt make us so enlightened. A man like Charlie Sheen im sure has had very powerful experiences in his life he may not need dmt to get the big picture, obviously it helps, but its not necessary to be outraged by what the government is doing and to be a good person no matter what, which is all he is trying to do.
 
Here's something from Laphams Quarterly, Winter 2011, Celebrity

Lewis H. Lapham said:
Perceptions of the world furnished by the camera substitute montage for narrative, reprogram the dimensions of space and time, restore a primitive belief in magic, employ a vocabulary better suited to a highway billboard or the telling of a fairy tale than to the languages of history and literature. The camera sees but doesn't think. ... As the habits of mind beholden to the rule of images come to replace the structures of thought derived from the meaning of words, the constant viewer eliminates the association of cause with effect, learns that nothing necessarily follows from anything else
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Ahh, I knew all this celebrity smashing could be seen more than in just one negative light. I too, easily tire of the celebrity stories, friends who watch E hollywood, (EW!) But, though they may appear to be of little substance, I can't say that they always appear without interest. And interest and curiosity are things I live for.

On the next page...

In place of the gods who once commanded the heights of Mount Olympus, the media present a repertory company of animated tropes enthroned on a never-ending talk show, anointed with the oil of sweet celebrity, disgorging showers of gold. It doesn't matter that they say nothing of interest or consequence. Neither did Aphrodite or Zeus. Celebrity is about being, not becoming. ... The images of wealth and power demand nothing of their votaries other than the duty of ritual obeisance. The will to learn gives way to a being in the know, which is the instant recognition of the thousands of logos encountered in the course of a day's shopping and evening's programming. The multitasking accelerates the happy return to the old school notion of fauns and satyrs concealed within a waterfall or willow tree. Celebrities of various magnitudes become the familiar spirits of insurance policies and shaving creams, breathe the gift of life into tubes of deodorant, awaken with their personal touch the spirit dormant in the color of lipstick or bottle of perfume
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I think the celebrities may be due a bit more justice than they seem to be getting here.

You might not agree with the views in this article, but I believe if one were to actually make a study of society and their celebrities, much could be revealed. I think when we examine and relate anything, it grows in power and becomes more relevant.


edit: couple more quotes on fame

What a heavy burden is a name that has become too famous - Voltaire

We all have a contract with the public- in us they see themselves, or what they would like to be - Clark Gable

Now there is fame! Of all- hunger, misery, the incomprehension by the public--fame is by far the worse. It is the castigation by God of the artist. It is sad. It is true. - Pablo Picasso

I am not covetous for gold. But if it be a sin to covet honor, I am the most offending soul alive. - William Shakespeare
 
he's by-winning, he wins here, he wins there, he wins wins everywhere! winning!! cuz he's a total fuckin rockstar from Mars, Absolute victory! epic winning!!
LMFAO:lol: :lol:
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The media should stop spending time on boring subjects like rising foodprices due to scarcity, political turmoil in the arabic world, africa and asia or environmental pollution, and focus all of their attention to the things that realy matter. We don't want the boring crap, we want celebrity stuff. I want to know what paris hilton had for breakfast, i want to know what her farts smell like. Those are the important issues in life, not everything that affects the lives of a few dozen million people i don't know anyway. Paris and charlie matter, they've been on TV. If you google 'paris' you get more hits on her than on that french city with over ten million people...that shows how important she is.
 
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