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Washing DMT with Ammonia or Acetone

Vularin

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Hi peeps,

Looking at all the different teks i see two options to wash the dmt crystals with, some used chilled ammonia others use lab grade acetone.

What is the best route to go?

Cheers,
V
 
careful with that ace(tone) eugene.

Freebase DMT is very soluble in acetone. DMT fumarate is not very soluble in acetone.

as for the ammonia wash.. I've never followed this step.
 
Madcapv2 said:
careful with that ace(tone) eugene.

lol...
im gonna put on that track right now.
Good old days : )

but how did you get from 'axe' to ace(tone)? ... :S
 
I, too, am curious as to which purification method is best. Thus far I've read about the two mentioned in the OP, with the addition of a sodium carb wash. If done properly, could any (or one) of these methods yield relatively pure DMT? I'm looking to do an extraction but first I would like to plan out all of the procedures to be executed. I don't want to be ingesting ANY nasty chemicals along with the spice, so I need to find a way to either prevent or remove any contaminants.
 
I have a curious question. If one has dmt freebase that is laced with some sodium carbonate, could he just add water to that and decant the water? The water would take the excess sodium carbonate and the freebase would stay behind. hmm
 
arohydro
I, too, am curious as to which purification method is best. Thus far I've read about the two mentioned in the OP, with the addition of a sodium carb wash. If done properly, could any (or one) of these methods yield relatively pure DMT? I'm looking to do an extraction but first I would like to plan out all of the procedures to be executed. I don't want to be ingesting ANY nasty chemicals along with the spice, so I need to find a way to either prevent or remove any contaminants.
If you want as little toxic junk in your spice as possible, I'd advise this approach:
 
damiana said:
I have a curious question. If one has dmt freebase that is laced with some sodium carbonate, could he just add water to that and decant the water? The water would take the excess sodium carbonate and the freebase would stay behind. hmm

From SWIM's experience, yes. SWIM's manner of accomplishing this is to get it wet, spread it thinly and evenly across an evap dish, then add just barely enough water to have a little puddle that can roll around the dish as it's tilted, collecting base and residual salts, decant and repeat as necessary. From here, the remaining oil can be recrystallizedd by any one of SWIY's favorite rextal techniques or it can simply be scraped around for somwhere between half an hour to an hour until it thickens and eventually hardens like clay.


For the rest of this thread, it depends on what needs to be cleaned out of the product: If water soluble impurities (base, salts), try the method above, and if jungle impurities (not necessray to remove, but some prefer to), use heptane (or naphtha, if SWIY has a taste for such things). Solvent contamination is about the nastiest, but that can generally be taken care of similarly to the above method, with just adding water and spreading and scraping, but if it's the sort of impurities found in a solvent that doesn't evaporate cleanly (leaves residue when evapped on its own), convert to salt and follow one of the freebasing techniques here.
 
Oh, SWIM forgot to mention that he's rarely required an alkaline wash of any kind for his product, when he did lye/limonene extraction, he did use a solution of sodium carbonate to buffer any remaining lye/bark water droplets after separating and then separated again, but this is not necessary for limtek or any such similar extraction technique and only prevents the base from neutralizing the acid used for salting (which could result in unwanted salts if FASW is used).

If SWIY's product is dirty from anything other than what SWIM's mentioned, an unfinished wiki article exists: Washing Spice - DMT-Nexus Wiki
most of which came from here: Acolon 5's Spice Washing Tek - DMT-Nexus Wiki
But SWIM's never really needed to use these sorts of methods.
 
SWIM, when very careful, gets perfectly white/translucent crystals with naptha extraction and has never had a need for cleaning. though she has been curious about it.

what use is it if the crystals leave very little to no residue and your lungs aren't on fire afterward?
 
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