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that circle has been debunked as far as I am concerned. There is geometrical errors etc found within it. I believe that some circles really are legit, but also that some are human made.
 
Haha, this is so cool. Obviously human made, but what is human anyway? I think the crop circle gives a hint, if you read into it.
 
If you think that this is made by human than explain to me how ? It would have to be done over one night (pitch black) in few hours.

If anyone is capable to make something like this, it is not a human that's for sure. And please do not say someone did this with ropes and planks of wood cos that would be really impossible ;)

If its still there when I am back in UK I will go there my self to see it.
 
smokerx said:
If you think that this is made by human than explain to me how ? It would have to be done over one night (pitch black) in few hours.
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It amazes me humans made the Sistine Chapel, but they did. These are artists using a novel medium, nothing moar.


Logic would say if aliens go to all the effort to get here they'd be a bit more explicit than images in a field somewhere. Just sayin'
 
smokerx said:
If you think that this is made by human than explain to me how ? It would have to be done over one night (pitch black) in few hours.

If anyone is capable to make something like this, it is not a human that's for sure. And please do not say someone did this with ropes and planks of wood cos that would be really impossible ;)

If its still there when I am back in UK I will go there my self to see it.
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It is not geometric. There are many far more complex circles that I dont believe humans could have made. I am convinced that many of them are definatily not human made..yet those circles are completely geometrically precise. This circle we are discussing is not geometrical and there are discussions in other places on the net that will go into more detail about than I care to get into.

I am not going to even try to explain to you how it was made, becasue I dont know. All I know is that if this one was created by the same intelligence(s) that created many of the others, why is this one not nearly as mathematically precise as many others? Why the lack of precision?
 
^ can you explain the radiation signatures found in many of the more convincing circles? Also how the crops are bent in spiral formations, each strand..not broken but bent with obvious signs of excellerated growth at the bend? It is far to easy to be closed minded about this whole thing until you start to look into it. I dont claim to know what it is, but these "how to" sites on google dont really explain the more convincing circles. Of course humans make some of them, but those ones have obvious differences from some of the other ones.
 
By far the coolest crop circle I've ever laid eyes upon. :d

I'm a skeptic, but that doesn't mean i don't recognize the possibility that another intelligent species could be doing this (crop circles). However, there has been research done on crop circles in a scientific light, they have found that the stalks of the plants are wilted in in a way typical of high burst microwave energy. This could be done with diy, gov, or alien tech. the point is its not going to prove disprove crop circles just show a explanation that could be applied to some man made crop circles.

Really strange that i first read about this this morning on boing boing, then this was posted on the nexus, trippy 8). Anyway heres the boing boing link to the article on magnetrons and crop circles.


and heres another cool and interesting link while doing some googling.

 
fractal enchantment said:
^ can you explain the radiation signatures found in many of the more convincing circles? Also how the crops are bent in spiral formations, each strand..not broken but bent with obvious signs of excellerated growth at the bend? It is far to easy to be closed minded about this whole thing until you start to look into it. I dont claim to know what it is, but these "how to" sites on google dont really explain the more convincing circles. Of course humans make some of them, but those ones have obvious differences from some of the other ones.
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If you can do this over night in few hours in complete dark (otherwise you would attract attention) then I will pay you lots of money Fractal :) The fact is you can come up with many theories about how you can do it but in the end you have no chance to do it. This place is near mane road A4 . I drive there quite often to visit my friends and if you try to do something there over night you will be seen if you start using light to actually see something. And you do need to see don you? Farmer with police would be there in few minutes. So again if you can do it go and try it.You will see how impossible would be to make something like this.
 
fractal enchantment said:
well sure, but how do you REALLY know it was not done over 2 or 3 days etc?
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Very easy cos it is by very frequent road A4 as I already said so people would see it next day in the morning. Plus the field belongs to farmer who goes there every day. It is impossible not to notice it.

In uk it is not easy just to go to someones field and not to be noticed. And making crop circle is not easy act is it ? can you even imagine what would you need to make this one ? Just try think about it. Hoe can you really do it (do not post links) just think about it your self how would you your self do it ?
 
smokerx said:
If you can do this over night in few hours in complete dark (otherwise you would attract attention) then I will pay you lots of money Fractal :) The fact is you can come up with many theories about how you can do it but in the end you have no chance to do it.
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That is a variation of "god of the gaps" thinking:

1) If I can't figure out how humans could have done it, then humans COULDN'T have done it.
2) If I don't have a practical explanation for a phenomenon, then the explanation is of fantastic origin.

The giveaway: the events/phenomena are either reports of reports of reports--or else they're not THAT stupendous. When you see an event where EVERY FIELD IN A COUNTRY becomes filled overnight with highly intricate and precise crop circles, I'll begin to agree with you that hoaxers couldn't possibly accomplish it. What makes this sort of hoax a hoax is the ability to do something that APPEARS quite improbable--but again, the tipoff is in the "quite" part: the feat is never TOTALLY and UTTERLY out of the realm of possibility.

And then there are the "real" crop circles that Fractal Enchantment refers to. For him they're real for the reasons I give: convincing "impossibility" they could be from human origin. I'd suggest to him, however, that he question the veracity of his sources of reporting/information a bit better. Real news organizations are constantly STARVED for really BIG stories--if "radioactive" circles are being found, I'm pretty sure major news outlets would be on it--at least eventually. One needs to consider the sources of reporting information.

Gullible thinking, guys.
 
Ockham's razor or Occam's razor

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Also called: the principle of economy a maxim, attributed to William of Ockham, stating that in explaining something assumptions must not be needlessly multiplied

Occam's razor or Occam's razor

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Translation: The most simple explanation is usually the most likely.


Hmmm. Let's take a quick sober (or even stoned) look at this and ask which is more simple/likely:

1.) Aliens who came from a star system tens to thousands of light years away, approaching so discretely that they are not seen, have a hidden ship, make no announcement to the planet as a whole, . . . . they've most likely either exceeded the speed of light OR come in what sci-fi authors call generation ships. That's a BIG investment. And they decide to show up in a few rural areas and do nothing but make nifty shapes in crops?

OR

2.) A number of highly organized people, with too much time on their hands, a lot of creativity and energy, a few supplies and possibly a bit of a load on decide to go out in the dead of night and spend 5-6 hours carefully laying out and laying down a nifty pattern in some crops?


Seriously, my money is on #2 at this point in time.
 
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