What are your thoughts on alcohol?

[Voidmatrix]

I meant to mention earlier that if I'm not mistaken, our attachment to alcohol is somewhat an inherited survival mechanism.

Long long ago, if I'm not mistaken, before we could clean our water, if there was no safe water, one drank light beer.

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[Transform]

I meant to mention earlier that if I'm not mistaken, our attachment to alcohol is somewhat an inherited survival mechanism.

Long long ago, if I'm not mistaken, before we could clean our water, if there was no safe water, one drank light beer.

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That must be why, despite what I've previously said here, I know I'm still a sucker for a pint of nicely brewed, English real ale at a pleasant country pub - and really just the one pint, drunk at a very leisurely pace around a mealtime. You could say that constitutes a ritual of sorts.

High grade absinthe is also quite good for rendering water potable, while simultaneously unleashing mayhem

 

[MAGMA17]

I have always followed a logic that unfortunately is not so banal...

Brain damage?: NO.

I have always had great respect for my future self, whom I consider a completely different and separate person. So just as I wouldn't do such harm to others, I wouldn't do it to my future self either.

 

[donfoolio]

As mentioned earlier, booze is quite important in spirit possession. Spirits love it.
It takes the role as offering, as it is drank by the medium that gets possessed. In possession rites that uses Ayahuasca and similar preparations, too much consumption of booze by the medium leads to vomiting.

Therefore it is often controlled by the others, sometimes hard alcohol is replaced with light beer etc.

The reason why spirits love alcohol can be found in the volatileness of both - they are both easily "distilled" - and of course, alcohol has been an important part of society when these spirits were alive as it is today.

All spirits have their preferred drink. Beer, wine, cachaça and aguadente, some prefer water or herbal teas. Just like us.

As tobacco, ritually used, there is no much harm coming from these substance. The problem starts, when sit get in the hands of irresponsible human beings. Arnolda de Villanova was frightened that the end of the world has come when he first distilled proper alcohol. With good reason...

 

[Nydex]

As tobacco, ritually used, there is no much harm coming from these substance.

If we have to consider what science currently knows about tobacco and alcohol, I would have to disagree with that statement. But yes, with moderation, it's not harmful enough to cause irreparable damage.

 

[Kobranek]

I was in a period where I wanted nothing to do with alcohol and those who consumed it. I had to distance myself from friends and family to be at peace.

Little did I know the distance I had to create brought a loneliness that was far more damaging than any amount of alcohol that I could possibly drink.

Sitting in alanon meetings only further ingrained my disdain for alcohol and everyone involved. During that time I thought alcohol was the worst substance on Earth. Shadow working my codependency was no easy feat.

Then came the shocking news that my father that I watched drink himself to death was not my real father. I lost my best friend to alcohol and pills. My step son is one sip away from being a full blown alcoholic. My mom and sister love to wine and dine, so much that my sister has developed gallstones which is only tightening her grip to the bottle. My wife can drink wine like water even after quiting for four years cold turkey. It's everywhere!!

I keep telling myself this is the last time but I can't stop. I love the way the first effects feel not so much the chase one goes through to maintain a buzz. I love the way it synergizes with cannabis. I love connecting with others with drinks.

I was brought into this world through alcohol. Am I to shun my existence? I was taught that adultery is bad, but that is how I was brought into this world. Should I now consider my segue into this world as a disgrace?

Absolutely not!! There are no mistakes including alcohol. I'm done with being too far to one side. I'm aiming somewhere in the middle. It was pretty damned stressful those four years, yeah I did enjoy being sober but not with all the negative connotations that it came with.

Everyone has very valid reasons to feel so strongly but I can't let those project their baggage onto me, I carry enough of my own.

I try not to get caught up in fear mongering with this is your brain, now this is your brain on alcohol, any questions (sizzling egg on a frying pan)? Our brains are very prone to adapting to negative factors with stress being the main one. Beers muscle relaxing properties have proved beneficial in moderation for me, like after a long run of at least 5k. The stored carbs can also be used for high intensity workouts provided you don't drink so much you get hungover.

Set, setting, intentions, and integration have never been more important. As others responses have pointed out.

The pandemic is when the drinking started again and now I can see the loneliness and yearning for connection not just with others but myself is how this all started again. Different strokes for different folks. The stress from loneliness is a killer that I feel is far greater than the damaging effects of alcohol. My intention is to let it go someday as I have already have before.

I really appreciate all the insight from the community, you guys are great and on point no doubt. Rkba I really appreciate your heartfelt response.

 

[Varallo]

I was in a period where I wanted nothing to do with alcohol and those who consumed it. I had to distance myself from friends and family to be at peace.

Little did I know the distance I had to create brought a loneliness that was far more damaging than any amount of alcohol that I could possibly drink.

Sitting in alanon meetings only further ingrained my disdain for alcohol and everyone involved. During that time I thought alcohol was the worst substance on Earth. Shadow working my codependency was no easy feat.

Then came the shocking news that my father that I watched drink himself to death was not my real father. I lost my best friend to alcohol and pills. My step son is one sip away from being a full blown alcoholic. My mom and sister love to wine and dine, so much that my sister has developed gallstones which is only tightening her grip to the bottle. My wife can drink wine like water even after quiting for four years cold turkey. It's everywhere!!

I keep telling myself this is the last time but I can't stop. I love the way the first effects feel not so much the chase one goes through to maintain a buzz. I love the way it synergizes with cannabis. I love connecting with others with drinks.

I was brought into this world through alcohol. Am I to shun my existence? I was taught that adultery is bad, but that is how I was brought into this world. Should I now consider my segue into this world as a disgrace?

Absolutely not!! There are no mistakes including alcohol. I'm done with being too far to one side. I'm aiming somewhere in the middle. It was pretty damned stressful those four years, yeah I did enjoy being sober but not with all the negative connotations that it came with.

Everyone has very valid reasons to feel so strongly but I can't let those project their baggage onto me, I carry enough of my own.

I try not to get caught up in fear mongering with this is your brain, now this is your brain on alcohol, any questions (sizzling egg on a frying pan)? Our brains are very prone to adapting to negative factors with stress being the main one. Beers muscle relaxing properties have proved beneficial in moderation for me, like after a long run of at least 5k. The stored carbs can also be used for high intensity workouts provided you don't drink so much you get hungover.

Set, setting, intentions, and integration have never been more important. As others responses have pointed out.

The pandemic is when the drinking started again and now I can see the loneliness and yearning for connection not just with others but myself is how this all started again. Different strokes for different folks. The stress from loneliness is a killer that I feel is far greater than the damaging effects of alcohol. My intention is to let it go someday as I have already have before.

I really appreciate all the insight from the community, you guys are great and on point no doubt. Rkba I really appreciate your heartfelt response.

He I completely understand, within my first years of not drinking I lost more friends than I could make new, also I really like people who drink, what I found is that in time it became easier to not drink and be socially active, the main difference being that I leave the pub before 12 and usually not after. I still feel I miss out on the nice buzz of it all, but then I realize I don’t really have the capacity to just drink one or two.

I guess what I’m trying to say is that I feel you and understand your choices.

Take care

 

[Voidmatrix]

Another thing that makes me raise an eyebrow is when a drinker, likely in denial about how their habit affects them, comes at me sideways about my smoking and psychedelic use. I end up thinking to myself, how would you like to test this? In the end, what's the overall outcome of the habit?

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